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Think you know george zimmerman?

Discussion in 'Political Issues' started by zeke501, Apr 30, 2012.

  1. zeke501

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    It's much too late for the truth. He must be crucified so cities won't burn. The usual racists, along with the media, cannot retract now.
     

  3. Skyhook

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    Still and all, Zimmerman provided us with one more example of the wild (WA) nature of today's irresponsible media.:steamed:

    Every bit of evidence, every shred of truth, need to come into the consciousness of the masses.
     
  4. cowboywannabe

    cowboywannabe you savvy?

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    the media has an act stupidly for free card when it comes to race baiting.
     
  5. itstime

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    Is this trial really about truth? Not since day one.

    Theedia should be held responsible when they report on cases like this with false information.
     
  6. jay-bird

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    The trial hasn't started yet, genius.
     
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  7. cowboywannabe

    cowboywannabe you savvy?

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    the trial is over, genius. hes already been tried and convicted by the media, race baiters, and other troglodytes. all thats left now is for the legal court to go through the motions and sentence him, as theyve shown to have already been influenced by those mentioned above.

    had there been real evidence to support this charge it would have come within weeks of the incident, not months and only after racists call for "justice".
     
  8. Fred Hansen

    Fred Hansen Liberal Bane

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    And at a bare minimum, such evidence would have been presented to a Grand Jury.

    Unfortunately, Floriduh guards its status as America's idiot step-cousin far too jealously. Special Prosecution Czarina is Floriduh's idea of justice.

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    Peepa ha' spokin...

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  9. jay-bird

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    You clearly do not understand how the legal system works. All of the evidence is there. The state has to figure out what the appropriate charge is.

    I've seen an arrest made MONTHS after a hand-written and spoken-and-recorded confession.
     
  10. cowboywannabe

    cowboywannabe you savvy?

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    you think they might have had to verify/investigate the confession or do you think they just went with what the confessor said?
     
  11. jay-bird

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    All I'm saying is - there is sufficient evidence to charge him - it the State's eyes. If the evidence is not there to justify the charge, the judge will throw the case out.

    I'm not saying I believe Zimmerman is guilty or innocent. I don't know. I wasn't there.

    However, in both accounts of the incident, Zimmerman pursued Martin. Armed pursuit by a non LEO. In the end the guy without the gun is dead.

    It's going to be a tough case. If Zimmerman stopped the pursuit and Martin attacked him - then the 2nd degree murder charge won't stick.
     
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  12. cowboywannabe

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    eye witnesses stated that zimmerman was being beaten into the ground near his own vehicle. this was known almost immediately by the police and prosecuters

    so zimmerman pursued martin to his own (zimmerman's)vehicle?

    lets see what facts the media has put out there. zimmerman was in his own neighborhood which had been victimized by criminals frequently and he was following on foot a person not known to him (martin) because he suspected him of being up to no good. zimmerman called the police and relayed this information to them, asking them to investigate. zimmerman obviously stopped following martin as martin beat zimmerman to a bloody pulp back at zimmerman's vehicle. says who? zimmerman and two eye witnesses.

    and you are right, we dont know all the facts. far as we know the prosecuters interviewed the eye witnesses and determined that they were leing and that zimmerman fell on the curb and busted his own head after he shot martin, then dragged martin's body back to his (zimmerman's) vehicle and claimed that he was attacked.
     
  13. Cavalry Doc

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    Armed pursuit? I'm not sure I'd describe any of the accounts of what happened as an "armed pursuit". That makes it sound as if he were running at the guy with gun drawn, and I haven't seen that claim anywhere.

    The case entirely depends on what happened once the two them became aware of each other, then the details are important, right up to the point he fired the shot.

    Time will tell. Whether he should have been charged will be easier to decide once all the testimony is completed. There is at least one bad guy in this situation, maybe two. Wait for it.
     
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    Why not? You've never seen a pursuit come around back to its starting point before?
     
  15. cowboywannabe

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    i guess there have been some foot chases that ended that way somewhere.

    jay, dont take what i said as an attack on you, not meant that way. im just discussted with how the lame stream media has the case sewn up already.
     
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    They could have 10 trials with 10 juries and 10 judges and some people on both sides of would not respect the outcome even if they were exactly the same. Racist on both sides of this mess made up their mind about this case before Zimmerman even woke up that morning. It is not about what occurred but the color of skin, it is all their shallow minds can see. White racist or black racist, all of it is just so simple minded that those who have those racist views do not have the intellect to judge a criminal case IMO. But thanks to 24 hour media and the internet they sure can express their views it seems.

    I am still of the opinion this is one hugely over hyped case that a majority of Americans of all colors really are not as invested emotionally in as it appears in the media. I guess what part if any it plays in the election will show that.
     
  17. ModGlock17

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    Many people bought into that argument.

    It's the argument that, "If you PURSUED, then you are GUILTY."

    The local law doesn't say anything near this, "If someone pursue you, regardless of intention, then you can bash his/her head in. And if he kills you, then he is not justified."

    The law simply says that you are allowed to use deadly force to defend yourself (and others) if you believe and can show reasonably that your life (or others) is in serious danger.

    The law focuses in precisely that MOMENT of threat. It does not look at the "big picture of causes and chain reactions".
    ...because if it attempts to look at the large causes and reactions.... it can go all the way to blaming the immigration of slavery... LOL.
     
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    But I think the jury will. Circumstance preceding the actual killing do play a factor in the legal outcome of many a murder trial, why not this one? :dunno:
     
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    Circumstance is used to establish a "motive" and an "opportunity" to commit a crime.

    [Note that the case against Casey Anthony is all circumstantial, because it did not tie to the moment of demise in question].

    My argument would be that: circumstance at 10:01pm was suddenly REPLACED by new circumstance at 10:15pm that was heightened by NEW motive and NEW opportunity, to committ a crime. That is, the shooter (or the hunter) found himself on the bottom of a fight, losing, and about to have his gun taken by the dominant one, and likely shot dead with his own gun by the dominant one. The hunter became the hunted and a loser, at the moment, who had no choice but to pull the trigger.