The worst panic yet....

Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by Folsom_Prison, Jul 4, 2020.

  1. Collo Rosso

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    Just like in the past panics, primers have dried up in the reloading world. Bullet manufacturers are behind in shipping, but they are shipping.
    I caught some primers in stock at Midsouth and ordered a sleeve (5K). I did a thread here in reloading and the next post 10 minutes later was "they're gone".
     
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  2. megawatt

    megawatt Electron maker

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    Once a month, the Jeep group I ride with goes to the range for a day of shooting. Range is always full and people have plenty of ammo. In 2009, I remember being one of three shooters in the entire range each time I went and most were shooting .22lr.

    It may be bad now, but it’s different and shooters are practicing. On my drive to work there is a common shooting area in the desert. Everyday there are multiple cars of people popping off rounds.
     
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  3. bac1023

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    Big election upcoming, so I don’t see too much slowing down.
     
  4. TheDreadnought

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    Unfortunately, we’re probably a year out from any chance of things getting back to normal.

    Best case scenario, Trump wins, there’re more rioting in Nov - March at least. It will take until July for things to settle down, if they do at all.

    If Biden wins, we’re effed. We might come to the point of needing to use our guns instead of collect them/shoot them at the range.

    Personally, I decided I wanted to buy myself a Colt Combat Elite in .45 for my b-day. I’ve bid on a few but refuse to pay more than MSRP. Which probably means I’m not going to be able to get one until my NEXT b-day, or later.

    Considering I don’t have a lot of .45 ammo around right now anyway, it’s probably for the best. But like you guys, I hate waiting.

    Don’t count on a big flood of used guns hitting the market. All these new gun buyers will just put them in the back of their closet, “just in case.”

    The silver lining is that this is a huge infusion of cash for the gun/ammo industry, which had been struggling under the mostly gun-friendly Trump environment. Everyone (except Remington) ought to be swimming in cash. That’s good.
     
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  5. jr24

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    Maybe, but I was starting to see some ammo back on the shelves/wholesalers again and a few guns even before the BLM nonsense kicked off. Now even the local shops are looking pretty sparse and we are usually fairly insulated from the gun panics (not ammo, though). Feel like I should run up to my powder and primers store and add more to my stock, even though I'm good to go for a year or more with what I've got.
     
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  6. DonD

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    I have a good supply of ammo and reload for 5 calibers. Also have a decent supply of components but I still want more brass, primers and slugs.

    Powdervalley usually has a very large supply of powder and primers. Essentially sold out when I checked yesterday. Midway's selection was slim and ended up paying a $12 premium for a 1000 primer box of Federal Match small pistol. Don't need match primers for shooting semi autos at CCW ranges of from bad breath range to 15yds.

    Newbies aren't into reloading so I'm surprised at the number of places that are wiped out of almost everything. Don
     
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    I just got into 6.5 Grendel and if small rifle primers get much rarer I might have to scavenge some of my primed .300 BLK brass to keep me going.

    Then again, I scavenged my .300 BLK upper to finish my Grendel upper, so it makes sense.
     
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  8. Deputydave

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    This!

    It will calm down, however, don't expect that until about the second quarter of next year. There are still three different 'situations to get through;

    • Right now you still have the MSM oscillating back and forth between Covid and riots (er, I mean peaceful protests). They will push the fear and gin up stats until election time.
    • You'll have the normal pre-election panic buying for those that don't understand President Trump will win re-election in an overwhelming land slide.
    • Then you'll have whatever paid protests are still left over (haven't been arrested yet) around President Trump's second inauguration.
    Then it will take a few months to get back to normal. By that time the gun and ammo compaines (who have been pumping out guns and ammo as fast as they can to milk this latest gravy train) will start to have a glut in inventory. So then the prices will come down. On top of this you'll have the sheep that panicked, bought a gun(s) and ammo at gouger-pricing try to dump both for whatever they can get on the used market. Oh, they'll try to get top dollar but by that time the floor will be falling out of the market. So I figure about a year from now, perhaps a little sooner and it will be time to go shopping.

    Fortunately, those that knew this was coming were already stocked up in both categories. And they knew well enough not to just have ONE go-to caliber of choice. Those that didn't learn the lesson from the last go-around and those that are new to the thought process are paying for those decisions.
     
  9. rock_castle

    rock_castle Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness

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    I went on SGAmmo's web site recently and was shocked by what I saw. Just about every 9mm item they carry was out of stock. Been buying from them for about 7 years now and it's never been like that.

    My wife used to give me a hard time when I would bring home a 100 round box of WWB for $18 every time we went to Walmart last year. She's now happy I did.
     
  10. Deputydave

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    Back when Walmart was getting rid of all those 'scary' calibers I helped them clean their shelves ;)

    Most ammo was 50% and I took advantage of it.

    This is why I've been saying for a LONG time, it isn't wise to have only one go-to caliber. Particularly if it's 9mm. 9mm is a GREAT caliber that has a LOT of pluses but the fact that everyone uses it (military, police, private citizens) is a negative for times such as this. That is why I was happy to see the 40 S&W 'supposedly' fall out of favor. That was the EXACT time to jump into a 40 S&W platform and ammo. Let the sheep follow the latest trend. As a result, 40 platforms were available en mass and often for bargain basement prices. And while 9mm ammo is pretty scarce right now (and significantly jacked up in price when you do find it) the 40 S&W is not nearly as bad off. I just ordered 500 rounds yesterday at about the same as WM pricing when they had it.
     
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  11. flyover

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    Some of the manufacturers were forced to shut down by state governors EOs, others shut down by infected workers add in the newbies buying anything they can get and it has been insane.
     
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    Trust the supply chain...
    The guns and ammo will come back ..
    Most of the folks panic buying now are going to get one or two guns, a box of ammo, and that's it.
     
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    I cast and reload. All pistol calibers cost < $.05 a round.

    I’m not saying this to be an *ss*hole... well, maybe a little bit...

    I’m saying it to point out that if you want to be FULLY prepared, you should reload. Even if you get yourself a cheap Lee single stage press, one set of dies, a $20 digital scale, a $20 hand primer and $10 calipers, you can hand load. Sure, it will be slow and tedious, but, you can still do it and if we’re in a true SHTF scenario, you’ll probably have plenty of time.

    Oh, and as far as guns being scarce, well, buy early and buy often.
     
  14. cciman

    cciman MacGyver

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    There are many factors.
    Supply and demand, as well as inflation, transportation, labor, and materials costs, which includes tariffs and regulations, immigration. Healthcare costs go up 20% every year.
    You cannot expect to pay prices from 10 years ago.

    Silly people still expect AKs to cost $400. Glocks have stayed the same price for over 10 years.
     
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  15. Dr. Leaky

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    It seems that earlier panic attacks were fueled by people who feared that they would no longer be permitted to buy guns/ammo so they decided to buy it while they could. Today people are fearing for their lives, especially in areas where the quislings are considering getting rid of the cops. There is an urgency that wasn't there before - people sense that this time it's for real.
     
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    Another indicator is wait times for background checks. Here in Colorado, we have an “instant check” system, Run by the state, and it usually takes about five minutes or so. I bought a gun the other day, and the background check is taking three days, and I have heard cases of up to a week. That’s how backed up they are.
     
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  17. rock_castle

    rock_castle Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness

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    Things here in CO are improving because I waited 8 days back in March.
     
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    It's so crazy busy that I got the first delay I have ever had yesterday on a 19 gen 5 mos. The shop I bought from said they have had 4 times as many delays this week over what they normally had. There was a state trooper that got delayed as well yesterday. Its insane right now. I look for nics to crash any day now due to volume.
     
  19. Pluto57

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    I don't know. I consider myself fully prepared and I don't reload. I guess it depends on your definition of "fully prepared".
     
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  20. DaleGribble

    DaleGribble Liberals 'R Bad!!!!

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    Bingo.

    This round of panic buying is so much worse because people that never owned guns before are panicked and afraid of what's coming. Sadly, most of them will continue to vote for the very people that are trying to destroy their very way of life.
     
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