The Realities of Martial Law

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  1. Blanton

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    Selco has a lot to tell about that one year of hell. Bread became priceless within a week.
     

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    First, they use or even manufacture a crisis where it's necessary to take your rights. You know, like 9-11, they did it quite well. Now if everyone stood up and said no, our government, even with our military fully supporting it, wouldn't be able to operate, but that's not what would happen. They just need to convince enough people that this is necessary, and people will take the path of least resistance, believing they are doing their patriotic duty, and those who resist are the problem. Like it says, they control the information and media, and they will make those who fight back out to be criminals.

    The reason the early Americans revolted was back then, the US was a very rugged place, where you couldn't rely on anything, everyone was a survivalist and free thinker. Just a few rules and regulations from the crown was too much. Much has changed since then, we are conditioned by the public schools to follow orders from authority. This youngest generation, Millenials and especially the new one's, gen Z or whatever, they want no personal responsibility or free thought, they want authority to take care of them and they do as they are told. If it bothers them they just go smoke some weed and it's all better.
     
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    I totally agree. Unfortunately, we are in the times of mob mentally.
    Even better when we have double-speak such as the USA PATRIOT Act. So many were on board to openly give our rights away such as due process from the "terrorist watch list".
    Even with after seeing past clips of valid position statements, current legislators seem to have no issue rebuking logical and valid positions so they can "win" their current desires. The current impeachment process is a fine example. Unfortunately, this is not limited to the current impeachment.
     
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    Right. Have you ever noticed how they are trying to label people terrorist so easily, even if they haven't committed terroristic acts. If Hillary would have won, the TEA party, Proud Boys, and pretty much any other conservative movement would be listed as a terrorist organization. Even though they are just protesting peacefully (until attacked). Meanwhile, Antifa and several other groups are being given a pass. The liberals now are saying that anyone who doesn't support anything and everything about the LGBT+, or is a "climate change denier" as a terrorists. Okay, off my soapbox but my point is they want to declare groups and even individuals terrorists as a way to bypass their rights.

    If the CIA/DHS/military is actually handling it, we are in trouble. The only thing we can hope for is our dumbass politicians who are incompetent in everything outside winning popularity contests run it, because they will screw up big time and give an opening.
     
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    The feds could not handle a full country under martial law. A city or two maybe. Not the entire country.
     
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    They won't need to,the UN will be glad ta help.'08.
     
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    Yes, it is always important to demonize and dehumanize the side you are against. I intentionally did not label any groups because generally, in today's environment, any "side" you disagree with is "wrong or misinformed" or any other negative adjective to describe their intellectual attributes.
    All the organizations you listed above are problematic to society, in my opinion.
     
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    You do understand the definition of Martial Law, right?

    This means the US Military will take control of local governments, all weapons will be seized, and anyone who objects will be shot.

    Yes, they can certainly take control of the entire country.

    There will be a large portion of the country who will go along without creating any problems.

    There will be a large portion of the country who will JOIN the military to be in control.

    There will be a small number of people who fight, who will be eliminated early.

    There will be a small number of people who think that they can fight a gorilla war, who may or may not have success, but since they will not have any supply lines - they will simply starve into inconsequential nothingness.
     
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    Take a good hard look at how they managed New Orleans after Katrina. There is the model.

    1. Pick a zone/cities. Shut off all electrical power and utilities. Block all major roads to prevent the entry of food and goods.
    2. Search all exiting vehicles for weapons, ammunition, and maybe cash and valuables.
    3. Arrest all the people on "the lists" as they pass through the checkpoints.
    4. Go door to door searching houses and dealing with people that won't leave (in a real martial law situation these people will disappear).
    5. Restore power and utilities and reopen city.

    Several dozen cities could be handled simultaneously like this. All the sheep will leave obediently, so you have a free field of fire on those who stay.
     
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    Just like we did in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan. Got it.
     
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    The governmental misbehaviours in Katrina became the catalyst for the formation of groups like Oathkeepers, an organization of military, ex-military, LEOs and other government officials who took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution and to encourage all those who've taken the oath to stay true to it. Especially known for "The 10 Orders We Will Not Obey", membership has grown dramatically over the past several years and the organization is often sending it's volunteers around the country as needed.
    The zealousness of military and LEO in supporting martial law, gun confiscation will likely NOT be a strong as many think
    https://oathkeepers.org/
    https://oathkeepers.org/declaration-of-orders-we-will-not-obey/
     
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    All correct.

    And a similar analysis of the probable defections from the Mil ranks, along with some amount of LE (more so with rural sheriffs, less so w/ urban cops), is given here:


    View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aJh7Ye1Qvc8
     
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    Our Constitution is very important and must be preserved and protected at all costs.
     
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    With the coming impeachment of Trump we are entering a post-Constitutional era where it doesn’t matter much.

    I’ve already heard discussion of how the next Democratic President needs to be immediately impeached. While I agree with the sentiment, it doesn’t do much to support the Constitution.

    Unfortunately, due to the insanity and lawlessness of the left, I’m starting to think the Constitution isn’t going to last much longer. If half the country deliberately ignores it, it’s just a piece of paper.

    Something’s gotta give.
     
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    As far as the military and law enforcement being used to ignore the Constitution and suppress the American public on an indefinite and nationwide scale... not going to work out for the people who order it.

    The military and LE will be just as split as the rest of the country. Once the logistics for the military collapsed, it ceases to be effective. To say nothing of being put in the position of being on opposite sides from other military and LE personnel.

    Imagining the U.S. military and LE as Stormtroopers who will enforce and order or commit any atrocity just because their leadership told them to is a leftist fantasy.
     
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    They could/would put boots otg here.'08.
     
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    I would think so too, except police imported into NOLA from certain Hard Core Democrat areas acted like Sherman's rear guard when they were here. Warrant-less searches of homes, vehicles and u-hauls were conducted where firearms (always) and sometimes jewelry were seized without receipts being given. Those that attempted to reclaim their property were asked for the receipts that were never given.

    Summary: there will always be enough bad apples available to perpetrate evil. Oathkeepers will be sidelined immediately and more compliant persons recruited.
     
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    Probably, with similar casualties on both sides.

    All the folks looking towards a civil war with visions of glory remind me of the soldiers that wrote enthusiastic letters home as they marched to Sharpsburg. We are all best to read Selco's stuff to acquire a realistic view of what may happen. The Vietnamese were facing ordinary Americans. The persons opposing freedom will more closely resemble those that oppressed Selco.

    Any civil conflict we suffer will be won by the side that quickly gains the initiative, so the conflict will open fast and hard. It will be no holds barred, no quarter, no prisoners taken. As Selco states, they won't kick in your door, they will just blow up your house.

    We are all better off if we win this conflict politically.
     
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