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The REAL cause of the Civil War

Discussion in 'Political Issues' started by QNman, May 6, 2012.

  1. QNman

    QNman Old timer

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    I have nothing to start with... Just giving the hijackers a place to continue this that isn't hijacking other threads.

    Note: see how simple that was?

    Forty or Bren, take it away. And please, gents, keep it civil (no pun intended).
     
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  2. Johnspark

    Johnspark Grumpy Fish

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    The North wanted postmortem intercourse and the West wanted hoofed wool on call.

    How's that for a "one-two" from left field....?
     

  3. The Machinist

    The Machinist Please! Please! No more!

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    Because Lincoln was a tyrant, who ordered the Army to wage war against Americans, in order to force them to live under his rule.
     
  4. smokin762

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    The North was oppressing the South by not allowing them to sell their goods at their own set prices. :steamed:
     
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  5. G17Jake

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    It was about national healthcare.... wasn't it?
     
  6. smokin762

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    That wouldn't be in a history book, it would more likely be in a crystal ball. :whistling:
     
  7. Ruble Noon

    Ruble Noon "Cracker"

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    Slavery
    The balance of power in Washington
    The role of the federal government vs. the states
    The election of Lincoln
     
  8. G17Jake

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    I hope not.
     
  9. DOC44

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    States' Rights

    Doc44
     
  10. TKM

    TKM Shiny Member Lifetime Member

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    Civil discourse turned to shooting.:dunno:
     
  11. janice6

    janice6 Silver Member

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    Except for Lincoln, we are still there.
     
  12. JBnTX

    JBnTX KJV Only

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    States rights was the reason.
    Slavery was the excuse.
     
  13. juggy4711

    juggy4711 Nimrod Son

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    JB is that you? I think you may have multiple personalities.
     
  14. G17Jake

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    :rofl:
     
  15. HarlDane

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    The cause of the war was the North's desire to preserve the union and stop the southern states from breaking off.


    As for why the southern states wanted to secede, their various Articles of Secession make their prime reason pretty clear.
     
  16. Naelbis

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    Economics...namely the Northern industrial and shipping interests attempting to place restrictions on Southern agriculture exports to force them to use only Northern shipping and stop buying English and French manufactured goods. Political...namely the balance of power in Washington between the Northern industrial and Southern agricultural states. The slowly expanding role of the Federal government into primarily state affairs was also an issue here. Slavery...because at the time southern agriculture had not yet replaced slave labor with machines. Although given the advances in technology some southern political figures were already predicting the eventual end of slavery as a labor source. While the Northern states had slavery, it was not as important to their economics and thus less widespread numerically.

    That pretty much hits the high notes although in a dramatically simplified way. Like any other societal upheaval the causes and events leading up to it were enormously complex.
     
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  17. TBO

    TBO Why so serious? CLM

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  18. fortyofforty

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    Well, it certainly wasn't about slavery, if some here on GT are to be believed. Thanks for the history lesson! :rofl:

    Oh, and pay no attention to what Jefferson Davis said. He didn't know what he was talking about, apparently.
     
  19. barbedwiresmile

    barbedwiresmile Unreconstructed

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    That's a pretty good synopsis. I would add two small but relevant bullet points:

    4. Property: slave owners, including those who saw the increasing futility of the circumstance, wanted to be compensated for their economic investment (as opposed to taking a large loss as part of any wholesale emancipation by federal decree).

    5. Demographics: the logistics of unwinding slavery was a topic of great debate. There was great concern regarding the sudden and overnight freeing of hundreds and hundreds of thousands of uneducated field hands, many of whom would be understandably bitter and hostile to their former 'masters', not to mention easily manipulated by emerging political powers. In retrospect, this concern - emancipation without a plan - has been vindicated.
     
  20. barbedwiresmile

    barbedwiresmile Unreconstructed

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    I figured Natty would be all over this. But I suppose pointing out the fallacies of federal propaganda with primary source material gets old.