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Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by Restless28, Jan 13, 2013.
Why some of you fear an Executive Order is beyond me.
Article 1, section 1o has been totally ignored for years.
Why should we be surprised when other provisions of the constitution are ignored?
Now that ids an excellent gif.
My thoughts exactly. Compromise on the second amendment, sure right after they compromise on the first
How do you explain to dad that Rs are pro-gun while Ds are anti?
When you say "...its their nature..." you must mean Progressives, because Conservatives don't want to take our guns. The problem is Ds in government, not government in general.
Ds are afraid of citizens being armed but Rs are not? Hmmm. Somehow the notion of Democrats wanting to disarm us out of concern for public safety while Republicans want us to be armed just isn't logical; there has to be a philosophical basis for the difference in position on gun issues. Can somebody help us here?
Seriously? You're petioning the President to impeach himself?
Yes, that's how most of his posts are.
Heh, you must not watch the news, huh? We'll see what Obama proposes today.
I sold all my guns to the panic buyers. After 12:00 this afternoon, I can buy guns and mags way cheaper!
Transfer fees are $25 here.
When you compromise what you already have, you lose.
I agree with you. Gun control is DOA in Congress. And Obama knew it from the start.
I've never met a person alive that didn't get a driver's license number and a bill of sale when buying or selling a gun. It's a non-issue. Most people don't want or need a government conducting the sale for them. Hell, I even do do it for knives and computer sales.
When I buy or sell a computer I want to make sure that the computer isn't going to be used to store child pornography because I understand most child pornographers have/use computers for their crimes. I have young children so I am pretty touchy on this issue.
i get most cops probably wouldn't want to and probably believe they wouldn't do something like that if it came to it... but how many would be willing to lose their job/income/means of putting food on the table for their family?
I think most won't like it, but if they're gun is not getting taken away and they would no longer be able to provide for their family... i think most will at least go through the motions, even if they don't like it.
How many do you think would make a big stand and lose their job?
How many of us would quit our jobs right now and come to the aid of someone else who's rights are being violated?
It's not like the movies. The cop doesn't make a big stand, quit his job, stand for principle then the music plays and the credits roll... the cop will wake up the next day, jobless, hoping he finds a way to make his house payment and keep the lights on. i don't know how many will make that sacrifice...
I really don't mind a madatory background check when selling or buying with someone I don't know in a private sale. I would be ok with having to meet at an FFL so they can to one on the buyer. Say its a $20 or $30 fee, it would help out those businesses a bit.
It is being reported here in NY that the NY state police had an integral part in the wording of the new BOHICA **** me hard law passed yesterday.
I take it you don't know a lot of cops.
Lmao! You new here? Ill tell you that you and i are in the minority on this one around here.
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Living in NY, PA and FL I've learned that police in NY have a entitlement mentality, they believe themselves to be special human beings that possess special powers. Police in PA and FL have much different thought content. And NYSP are by far the worst offenders of this thinking.
It must suck where you live. I have bought, sold and traded many, many guns over the years. One guy actually had me sign a bill of sale, but he moved here from up north. other than that, one person is handed cash, one person is handed a gun and we both go on our way.
That post looks so #^%*&^$ crazy, when I get to the second paragraph, that I wonder if you are being sarcastic and making fun of NickC50310 for being such an uptight newb. You obviously can't be serious about getting ID for knives and computers, etc., but the first part looked like you were.
I have done I would guess 15 or so face to face buying or selling transaction on guns over the last 20 years. Never had a bill of sale or ID go either way. Never had an issue either. I would not be offended if someone asked me too but no one every has nor have I ever asked anyone.
Closest I ever came was selling 3 WWII rifles and ammo to a guy, he gave me his business card if I ever needed a lawyer
My thoughts exactly. Their will probably be a huge number of local police and ATF stings to sell guns to people who are trying to buy them "illegally," thus making a lot more people unable to own guns.
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I think you are making broad sweeping brush stroke opinions on how we may or may not react. If you read or listen to the media cops are already making stands in positions as high as the Sheriff of large countys. NO not all will and I can't speak for all of them and for sure don't know all of them but hey I would like to hope.
I am telling you that even if there is a % of cops which there WILL BE that refuse to break the law you are still gaining for the fight to keep our 2nd the way it is supposed to be.
I don't know a lot of cops from NY you are correct, actually none currently employed. But believe or not I have a life outside of GT and might be a member/moderator of some of the largest police discussion forums available and might talking to thousands of cops not just from the US but the world daily.
Also believe it or not NY is not the deciding factor in the US on how LE behave and or interact with the population.