I finally took a look and one and bought it on the spot. My first thought was M-1 Carbine. That's just what it reminded me of. The pistol grip is thinner, which is a big plus. I cleaned it and loaded the Ruger 17 shot magazine with 115 Grain Winchester. At 25 yards it shot very well off hand and a very tight group from the bench. Trigger was good, a little creep. At 100 yards the group was much bigger, but still not bad. It was getting toward dusk and my range is not the best toward dark, lot's of shade. The front sight was harder to pick up and I may need a fiber optic front sight, we'll see. No malfunctions of any sort. It handles great. I've got some Glock magazines on order since the Ruger company cheaped out by only providing one magazine. This may be my hiking carbine, I'll know once I put a couple of hundred more rounds through it. I do like the fact that it shares the same round as my woods pistol. Here's it and it's Bretheren.