The New, or Future Illinois

Discussion in 'Illinois Glockers' Club' started by Ballgame43, Jan 19, 2019.

  1. Ballgame43

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    Where is our money and mouth best spent on attempting to keep what we've gained, and not lose anything with the new IL government? NRA? ISRA? GSL?
     
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    We have the same issue just to your north, with a new gov the NRA graded an "F" for gun owners.
    Time will tell. I think the NRA, being the 8000 pound gorilla in the room , has the most bang for the buck. Thats how I see it. Brand recognition, good track record, largest numbers.
     
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    Get over to IllinoisCarry.
     
  4. Hoochrunners

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    Your money best spent is in a moving truck. Illinois is too far past critical mass.
     
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    I lived there from 1958 to 1993. Illinois has been at or near critical mass for as long as I can remember, but they just have never had enough momentum to push it over the top.

    I really have no regrets from moving out of there, but do feel for the friends I left behind. They seem oblivious to just how bad things are there. I kind of get that too because I really didn't realize it fully until I moved out.
     
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    I know that between the tax and budget issues and the new war on shooters, I’m leaving within the next year.
     
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    I live in southern IL and our representatives are pro gun and are I believe doing all they can but southern IL don’t carry much weight
     
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    Exactly. Illinois is top heavy.
     
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    ISRA is good source. Yet, the best you can do is to get in contact with your local rep and senator and make sure you get them onboard with opposing these horrible bills.
     
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    Ill. sucks and will be the first to trash all civil rights for the betterment of the whole!
     
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    Un fortunately that’s who is their strongest supporter nra doesn’t have one appointed to IL they said at a meeting the other night
     
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    Wisconsin is beginning to swing the same way politically isn't it? All of your largest cities over the last 20-30 years have seemed to turn blue, while all of the more rural areas vote red. Your economic growth is excellent despite of it, but something tells me that won't last long..
     
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    I lived in Cook county for 17 years of my early adult life, before moving away in 95. I get emails from IllinoisCarry. They are a good source of information specific to gun rights in IL.
    As an example, a post in the Illinois Politics forum
    http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=69147
    has some Adobe files listing how many FOID and CCL were recorded in 2017, listed by county and gender.
     
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    Yes, WI certainly is an enigma from my viewpoint- I do not live near the ultra leftist hoods like Madison or Milwaukee- yet the general feeling where I live is pretty much the opposite. I see strong support for conservative choices, yet just like national elections- we just do not have the numbers anymore. I am afraid it is pretty much a losing battle................
     
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    I’m looking for a new job and spending my money on getting out of state. This state is doomed.
     
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    I understand leaving the State, but that is what the Leftist want you to do. Illinois is following the California model to Socialism. That model is:
    One, stress the middle class with high taxation, regulations and high cost of living. Two, attack conservatism, traditional religion, the family and small and medium businesses.
    Three, bring in illegals to replace the middle class let them vote, live at poverty and promise them everything for free. The illegals will be the slave voting class for the socialist.
    Four, create corrupt laws that violate the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights and ensure Government power over the citizen.
    Five, encourage immortality, drug use and create distrust among the people by dividing the people into groups.
    Six create a new Government religion based around Diversity and Inclusion. Attack those who refuse to practice Government religion by calling them racists and fascists.

    This is part of the game plan of the left and they have been pushing this plan since the 50s. It is evil and unfortunately Illinois, California, New York and most major cities are bring consumed by it.
     
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    Dude, you've read my mind exactly...........Good job. Now let's get EVERYONE on board with this !!!
    This- this explanation exactly and concisely portrays the very ideas I have been reading and digesting now for several years. if we DO NOTHING- and "vote the bad guys out", we have ZERO chance of turning this ship around. I believe it is already too late. You can read all the reports you want, watch all the "conspiracy" videos(NOT my words....) you can find- in the end, just a waste of time . Words mean very little anymore- I think we all know the next step, people. The enemy has put their best foot forward- are we going to accept defeat? Will those among us do the proper thing when confronted with tyranny? I have a pretty good idea of what is required from me........and I have friends on the same page.
    Further explanation here, on my part, would jeopardize collective efforts, and probably invoke an infraction of this sites rules and regulations, so I am done.
     
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    They do all of those things whether we leave the state or not. If someone chooses to be their tax slaves, then more power to them, but it's forcing smart people to leave while the gettin' is good.

    The one thing I've noticed is that there's no fighting it. Their machine can't be beat by voting. Even when we get a more fiscally conservative official in office, the democrats still obstruct everything they can to keep positive change from happening in Illinois. Chicago and Springfield NEVER want to live within our means and spend responsibly.

    As long as the citizens of Chicago and Springfield remain as dumb as they are, nothing will ever improve here. There comes a point where you have to hand it over to them and let it all fail.

    Detroit rings a bell here..
     
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    Bird76mojo I agree with your statement. Illinois is a sinking ship and the bad decision and ideas made my politican in California, Illinois and New York will spread to other states. The ideas of Socialism must be fought where it originates. To run from it is delaying the fight. California is a great example. Californian are leaving California spreading to other western states and Texas. They are bring their leftist voting history and ideas with them which is spreading the disease of Socialism.