The mass exodus of police

Discussion in 'Cop Talk' started by walkinguf61, Jul 8, 2020.

  1. as400guy1

    as400guy1

    Messages:
    9,524
    Likes Received:
    9,833
    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2009
    Keep in mind, all the big/relatively big players have a security detail, so they are covered...
     
    nikerret likes this.
  2. MurrayNevada

    MurrayNevada USMC (MOS 0369) (RVN 69-70)

    Messages:
    1,964
    Likes Received:
    3,756
    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2000
    Location:
    Nevada
    Those lawyers probably forgot because if I recall correctly "breach of contract" is covered early in the first year of law school. Probably difficult for the city lawyers to remember.
     

  3. ReaPer105

    ReaPer105

    Messages:
    5,968
    Likes Received:
    11,705
    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2017
    The people in NYC who suffer most will the be the ones in decent neighborhoods. Officers will be drawn from lower crime areas to higher crime areas to deal with the call load. That leaves the good people with little police protection when the turds travel there to freely commit crimes.
     
    glock1097 likes this.
  4. fastbolt

    fastbolt

    Messages:
    26,126
    Likes Received:
    28,119
    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2002
    Location:
    CA Central Coast
    They aren't thinking ahead. They're feeling. How often does that work out well?
     
    CAcop, pgg00 and Dragoon44 like this.
  5. Dragoon44

    Dragoon44 Unfair Facist Lifetime Member

    Messages:
    23,004
    Likes Received:
    15,045
    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2005
    Exactly right,

    I learned a long time ago that there are two types of people in the world. Thinkers and feelers.

    The Thinkers worldview is shaped by logic, reason, etc

    The feelers worldview is typically detached from logic and reason Andis based solely in their emotions, how they feel about something. Liberals are overwhelmingly "feelers" that is why they are impervious to arguments and viewpoint based in logic and reason. They are simply incapable of thinking in such terms.
     
    fastbolt likes this.
  6. DaleGribble

    DaleGribble Sandwich!

    Messages:
    12,107
    Likes Received:
    15,507
    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2003
    Location:
    Land of the toothless!
    I quoted both of you because you have some similar points and I have a bit of different perspective on the issue.

    I think you're both right in that most of the people involved in this current movement haven't thought that far ahead as most of them are feelers. So as I said you're both right, but there's more to it than that, a lot more.

    Think about this for a minute and analyze recent history. Black Lives Matter (BLM), as an organization really gained legs and mainstream recognition after Michael Brown got a bullet to his dome. After that controversy faded, the BLM movement seemed to lose its legs, at least in terms of press coverage and notoriety. That's not that unusual in today's very rapid news cycle.

    Then George Floyd couldn't breathe and **** exploded, fast. Way to fast IMHO.

    All of a sudden, BLM became a political powerhouse as riots were kicking off in cities all across America as every woke caucasian and some black people started chanting. The woke part is no big deal. 99% of them were going to vote Dem anyway, those are the feelers that grandpa was just posting about and they haven't thought any farther ahead than their last InstaFaceSnapbook video that demonstrates their wokeness to their woke friends. They don't understand what their troglodytic grunts about defunding police are really going to do, and truth be told, they're already racist as **** and as large urban police departments do get defunded and crime skyrockets, they're going to become closet racists really fast. These people don't concern me. They're mouth breathers, they're inconsequential and they will move on to their next cause de jour as soon as CNN and MSNBC tell them too.

    It's the organized criminal enterprise wing of BLM that coordinated riots all across America while the political wing of BLM was orchestrating a large media push to demonize law enforcement that has my conspiracy meter pegged to the red. The "leaders" of that movement are thinkers, and they've thought very far ahead. They said as much decades ago when they were Communists in the Soviet Union, Cuba, East Germany, etc etc etc. Now they're simply doing exactly what they told us they were going to do in the 1960s.

    I'm not some Alex Jones idiot or conspiracy theorist. I know the Earth is round, I know vaccines don't cause autism, chemtrails aren't controlling my mind and I believe Armstrong did in fact walk on the moon. And with all that being said, no one can convince me this wasn't/isn't a coordinated, organized, well planned and well-funded attack on this country. Every cop reading this post right now knows that similar criminal activities being committed at once in multiple different places at the same time is not a coincidence. It's just to obvious.

    Defunding the police and subsequently destabilizing large cities is just the beginning. We all know what's going to happen. Those same areas where you guys already spend the largest percentage of your time are going to explode once police resources start becoming really scarce. That explosion is going to have a ripple effect that IS going to spread, and that's exactly what the communists behind BLM want. They do not care that even more innocent black people will represent the overwhelmingly vast majority of crime victims that will be suffering and dying as a result of this coordinated attack. BLM is about to cause more harm to black America than the Klan ever could have hoped to do and that's no accident, it's the first significant part of a very insidious agenda/movement.

    Fortunately, I'm seeing more and more black people starting to speak up in mainstream media about the fraud that is the BLM movement and they're starting to chant the message that truly needs to be said, and that truth that we all know is, it's not the police that are killing black people, it's other black people. The woke Queen of Atlanta even came out and said that recently. As much as I despise her for what she has done to the hard-working men and women of the APD, I gotta give her props for sacrificing herself to the woke mob. It doesn't make up for what she has done in the very recent past but the simple truth is, she has quickly realized the truth about what is about to happen to the rest of America and she tried to call a time out but it was too late and she got eviscerated for it.
     
  7. Newcop761

    Newcop761 CLM

    Messages:
    4,641
    Likes Received:
    2,656
    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2001
    Location:
    In Existential Crisis
    The Antifa/BLM terrorist attacks nationwide have clearly been pre-planned and coordinated. The only nexus to George Floyd was to take advantage of his death as a flash point to trigger their pre-planned assaults on America's core institutions, values, and history.

    Hell, Susan Rosenberg is a convicted terrorist who was sentenced to 58 years in prison. Bill Clinton pardoned her on his last day in office. Now Rosenberg is coordinating fundraising for BLM.

    I don't think you're a conspiracy theorist at all. This is coordinated domestic terrorism.


    View: https://youtu.be/afcLhz6M5U0
     
  8. wprebeck

    wprebeck Have you seen me?

    Messages:
    12,272
    Likes Received:
    12,345
    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2002
    Location:
    Mm..looks like heaven
    Yeah, I don't believe in coincidences, either. It's just that the whole situation seems like a tinfoil hat conspiracy, PW-style.

    Yet, here we are.
     
  9. ReaPer105

    ReaPer105

    Messages:
    5,968
    Likes Received:
    11,705
    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2017
    The people in NYC who suffer most will the be the ones in decent neighborhoods. Officers will be drawn from lower crime areas to higher crime areas to deal with the call load. That leaves the good people with little police protection when the turds travel there to freely commit crimes.
     
    DaleGribble likes this.
  10. Dragoon44

    Dragoon44 Unfair Facist Lifetime Member

    Messages:
    23,004
    Likes Received:
    15,045
    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2005
    Make no mistake, this is in fact a well planned and we'll funded assault on the U.S.

    I was not suggesting that these actions, looting, violence, etc.were in any way spontaneous. The are very much orchestrated by those who understand how to manipulate and motivate the "feelers".

    There is an old saying,

    If you are young and not a liberal you don't have a heart,
    If you are old and not a conservative you don't have a brain.

    Those pushing this unrest know very well who their target audience is, by and large they are the young with little or no life experience who have been indoctrinated in the leftist dominated education system.
     
  11. fastbolt

    fastbolt

    Messages:
    26,126
    Likes Received:
    28,119
    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2002
    Location:
    CA Central Coast
    Today's young people are not only being hammered with the phenomena of social media saturation, but they're also operating at the disadvantage of NOT having been required to learn relevant aspects of history and how they shaped our society and culture during the past 80+ years. They haven't been made privy to the mistakes made by Baby Boomers, nor the reasons that shaped them to make those mistakes. That's going to make them ripe to be victimized by the forces of instability promoting socialism, masquerading as some ill defined "change they can believe in"; righting the wrongs of capitalism; redistribution of wealth; and guaranteeing everyone an equal outcome (without the investment of equal effort), etc.

    Entitlement is just another way to say uninformed.

    Instead of making the same mistakes as their parents, they may be able to make the sames mistakes as the generations of their parents, grandparents and great grandparents ... because they just don't know.

    Social media can spread disinformation, propaganda and outright lies at the speed of an electron. Deliberate and careful reasoning about matters of import takes too long when social media is calling with urgent feelings and offended sensibilities.
     
    Last edited: Jul 13, 2020
    Glolt20-91 and Dragoon44 like this.
  12. fastbolt

    fastbolt

    Messages:
    26,126
    Likes Received:
    28,119
    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2002
    Location:
    CA Central Coast
    Corrected the above post when I noticed I'd typed faster than I could include an important word (NOT) in the first sentence, and missed proof-reading and catching it. :oops:

    Being a parent of young people in their early 40's, and having grand children, I'm sad for the timing of this mess hitting our society, as well as the inevitable (and understandable) gullibility of the young people in their teens-through-20's making them unprepared to beware being victimized by forces looking to wreak instability, lawlessness and anarchy on our country.

    Then, there's the people old enough to know better, but seeing an opportunity to profit or gain power during it. Sigh.
     
    Newcop761 likes this.
  13. banger

    banger

    Messages:
    2,327
    Likes Received:
    1,936
    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2005
    Location:
    Gila County Az

    We used to call ours...... Meter Maids with 9mm's.

    Want to see them poop their pants... let them handle a domestic.

    They did not have a clue.

    All flash... very little go.

    However I will say... they used to put out the most stunning road flair displays.

    EDIT: I must add I worked back east. The Arizona D.P.S. has some first rate people.

    And, very knowledgable.... AND, tough.
     
    Glolt20-91, pgg00 and Dragoon44 like this.
  14. sarge40

    sarge40

    Messages:
    240
    Likes Received:
    243
    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2004
    Location:
    New York
    And I think the tin foil hat sentiment is what keeps some people from calling it what it appears to be. Just way too many coincidences though. It really took off like it was a well-thought out plan waiting for the right signal to execute it. Then a felon with a counterfeit 20 meets a cop with a judgment problem and boom!

    Perfect timing too, as I can retire shortly should things become unmanageable.
     
  15. vikingsoftpaw

    vikingsoftpaw DEPLORABLE ME!

    Messages:
    11,301
    Likes Received:
    4,690
    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2009
    Location:
    Willoughby, Ohio USA
    Your beliefs echo mine.
     
  16. pgg00

    pgg00

    Messages:
    18,141
    Likes Received:
    41,782
    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2008
    Location:
    Fled the emerald triangle
    12771.jpeg
     
    Newcop761, Dragoon44 and fastbolt like this.
  17. CAcop

    CAcop

    Messages:
    30,053
    Likes Received:
    19,072
    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2002
    Location:
    California
    In California though to have an armed guard carrying a gun concealed is a difficult process so they end up hiring retired or off duty cops so speed up the process.

    I think the Hollywood types are going to be in for a surprise if they get the defunding they want.
     
  18. fastbolt

    fastbolt

    Messages:
    26,126
    Likes Received:
    28,119
    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2002
    Location:
    CA Central Coast
    I had a couple reasons to become familiar with this subject over the years, and you're spot on.
     
  19. Glolt20-91

    Glolt20-91

    Messages:
    4,398
    Likes Received:
    593
    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2005
    Location:
    Arizona Territory
    Bolshevik Lives Matter :)
     
  20. Will Beararms

    Will Beararms Millennium Member

    Messages:
    6,387
    Likes Received:
    9,320
    Joined:
    Oct 12, 1999
    Location:
    Parts Unknown
    Let AOC, Di Blabbio, Fredo, Schumer and Soros saddle up and ride herd over Fort Apache. It’s not worth losing your life savings or your freedom over. The voters made their decision.
     
    Dragoon44 likes this.