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A few days ago, one of the left-wing local papers surprisingly published a story about how the Democrats were directly financing advertising for the Libertarian candidate in the Kentucky Senate Race - spending more on his behalf than his own campaign.

Why is a pro-McGrath PAC sending mailers supporting the Libertarian candidate?

Yesterday Facebook ads for the Libertarian nobody knew was running started popping up one after the other. I may have mentioned that the "True Kentucky Patriots" pac were actually fake Kentucky patriots and a fictional entity created by the Democrats, which had spent over $60,000 for Brad Barron in spit of having received $0 in contributions - they instantly blocked me from commenting on their posts, as did another "Libertarian" PAC that suddenly popped up and started posting right after that.

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Notice the fine print: "Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee."

They are apparently doing the same in other places, like the South Carolina senate race against Lindsey Graham.

Liberal Groups Propping Up Third-Party Candidate Who Already Dropped Out In South Carolina Senate Race

Bledsoe, who has dropped out of the race and thrown his support behind Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham. The mailers say Bledsoe is ‘the only true conservative on the ballot,’” the outlet reported.
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“The ads call Bledsoe ‘the only Senate candidate who stood with President Trump on day one’ and note that he ‘opposes all abortions’ and ‘believes that any gun-control law infringes upon the Second Amendment.’ The ads also link to a website paid for by the South Carolina Democratic Party, which calls Bledsoe ‘pro-Trump,’ ‘pro-gun,’ and ‘anti-abortion,’” the Free Beacon reported.


Not very coincidentally, the ads for Barron in Kentucky are nearly word for word the same.

Harrison is not the only red-state Democrat working to siphon votes away from a Republican opponent by boosting a third-party candidate. A liberal super PAC backing Kentucky Senate nominee Amy McGrath—Fire Mitch Save America—spent more than $77,000 on mailers propping up libertarian candidate Brad Barron. The mailers call Barron, whose campaign has disbursed less than $17,000, a “better choice for U.S. Senate” who “believes in freedom, liberty, and individual rights.” McGrath’s campaign asked “people who are interested in contributing beyond the legal limits” to give to Fire Mitch Save America in January.
 

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The Democrats and Republicans have no one to blame but themselves.

Here in California there is the best of two system in the primaries. Which means only the best two candidates move on from the primary to the general election. Both parties benefit because in local races it guarantees no insurgent 3rd party to cost you the election. Even in statewide races it is often just the top two because the parties shut down serious challengers to the seat in their own party. Occasionally when they want to oust the incumbent, see Feinstein and her last election, they face off against another member of their party.

If both parties actually let it go they could still get elected and partner with smaller parties.

Justin Amash went libertarian and is quitting because he said the party leaders control the flow of legislation and the job is really just taking orders.
 

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I get being libertarian on an independent and personal level but I don't see how it can work on a national/Federal level.
 

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A few days ago, one of the left-wing local papers surprisingly published a story about how the Democrats were directly financing advertising for the Libertarian candidate in the Kentucky Senate Race - spending more on his behalf than his own campaign.

Why is a pro-McGrath PAC sending mailers supporting the Libertarian candidate?

Yesterday Facebook ads for the Libertarian nobody knew was running started popping up one after the other. I may have mentioned that the "True Kentucky Patriots" pac were actually fake Kentucky patriots and a fictional entity created by the Democrats, which had spent over $60,000 for Brad Barron in spit of having received $0 in contributions - they instantly blocked me from commenting on their posts, as did another "Libertarian" PAC that suddenly popped up and started posting right after that.

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Notice the fine print: "Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee."

They are apparently doing the same in other places, like the South Carolina senate race against Lindsey Graham.

Liberal Groups Propping Up Third-Party Candidate Who Already Dropped Out In South Carolina Senate Race

Bledsoe, who has dropped out of the race and thrown his support behind Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham. The mailers say Bledsoe is ‘the only true conservative on the ballot,’” the outlet reported.
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“The ads call Bledsoe ‘the only Senate candidate who stood with President Trump on day one’ and note that he ‘opposes all abortions’ and ‘believes that any gun-control law infringes upon the Second Amendment.’ The ads also link to a website paid for by the South Carolina Democratic Party, which calls Bledsoe ‘pro-Trump,’ ‘pro-gun,’ and ‘anti-abortion,’” the Free Beacon reported.


Not very coincidentally, the ads for Barron in Kentucky are nearly word for word the same.

Harrison is not the only red-state Democrat working to siphon votes away from a Republican opponent by boosting a third-party candidate. A liberal super PAC backing Kentucky Senate nominee Amy McGrath—Fire Mitch Save America—spent more than $77,000 on mailers propping up libertarian candidate Brad Barron. The mailers call Barron, whose campaign has disbursed less than $17,000, a “better choice for U.S. Senate” who “believes in freedom, liberty, and individual rights.” McGrath’s campaign asked “people who are interested in contributing beyond the legal limits” to give to Fire Mitch Save America in January.
This is how they flipped VA blue. They dumped millions into propping up every Libertarian candidate in a swing race in order to dilute the conservative votes. Winning strat every time.
 

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Here in California there is the best of two system in the primaries. Which means only the best two candidates move on from the primary to the general election....

Justin Amash went libertarian and is quitting because he said the party leaders control the flow of legislation and the job is really just taking orders.
Americans have a different meaning for "best" than Californians.

And Independent Justin Amash only became a Libertarian in late April 2020 thinking he could get their nomination for President. He gave that foolish idea up in May 2020. Nobody wants him.
 

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Did you misunderstand that the democrats are using the gullible Libertarians as pawns?
He's not even running anymore. Even if the "gullible" Libertarians want to they couldn't vote for him.

"Bledsoe, who has dropped out of the race and thrown his support behind Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham."

Here's the real shocker, why would a Libertarian CARE if the Democrats were funding them? You know they would prefer a Libertarian candidate right?
 

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Delete, quoted myself instead of edit.
 

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This is a game that can be played both ways. The conservatives/Republicans could provide under the able support to Green / Socialist third party candidates to draw votes away from Biden.
 

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Well shoot, I thought it was the Green party that cost Hillary the election?

At least she claimed that here.
Not sure what this means - obviously you see that left-wing third parties would draw from the Democrats, just like right-wing third-parties draw from the Republicans, right? The difference is, this is one of the big two financing third-party candidates strictly as a strategy to confuse and divide stupid conservative voters.
 
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This is a game that can be played both ways. The conservatives/Republicans could provide under the able support to Green / Socialist third party candidates to draw votes away from Biden.
If they would actually do it.

If we could have talked Bernie into running as a socialist, green or independent, this election would be in the bag.
 

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What's REALLY funny is the Republicans always assuming that Libertarians should vote for their guy but act bewildered when Democrats actually do something to help the Libertarian cause.

Might be a learning moment for those "gullible" Republicans :supergrin:
 

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This is a game that can be played both ways. The conservatives/Republicans could provide under the able support to Green / Socialist third party candidates to draw votes away from Biden.

The difference is Libertarian ideals are much more inline with Republicans but the Republicans just want to denigrate everyone that isn't a conservative.

Republicans on a whole aren't bright enough to figure out who their actual allies could be if they'd spend a minute and think.

I blame it on team politics. Republicans weren't always this dense.
 
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I doubt Cocaine Mitch is losing much sleep over Barron's vanity campaign, even with Dems pimping for him.

The last poll had McConnell with 51% of the vote, McGrath with 42%, and Barron getting 4%. The headline for the Lexington CBS affiliate's story was "New poll shows McConnell with single- digit lead over McGrath." Well, yes, 9% is a single-digit number. :rolleyes:

Click through and read the story and you quickly learn that the details of the poll were all terrible for McGrath. She's losing every part of the state except for Louisville by double digits. She's barely winning women (49%- 47%) even though her entire schtick has basically been "Vote 4 Amy cuz she STRNG GRRRRRRL!!!"

What's funny is that the title shown in the url for the story actually reports this. Somewhere along the line it was changed to try to spin a little hope for McGrath.

https://www.wkyt.com/2020/10/21/new...connell-in-significant-lead-over-challengers/
 
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