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LEO Protection Act of 2022
I’ve been speculating about societal changes needed to more fully protect our LEOs. The following is from a non attorney, non social worker, non politician.

Many Officers are killed or injured while dealing with known mentally ill folks. Many of our conservative state legislators and governors claim to support the Guys and Gals in Blue. Let us test them by asking them to introduce and support a state LEO Protection Act of 2022. Which includes funds to build more mental institutions to house those who cannot live independently and whose families cannot adequately care for them. This could reduce the numbers in the local jails?? Alternately they could send more MEDICADE funds to the local jailers to gussy up their medical staffs.

The civil libertarians, such as I, will grit their teeth at more restrictions but the progressives will welcome more medical facilities and the conservatives will welcome better conditions for Cops so the states that need this type of program should come to terms quickly on it. Will Police Chiefs and police unions take this working idea and run up to their state capitol? Probably not, but we can still dream about a better future for the young folks.
 

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If someone thinks "lock people up in mental institutions to protect the police" is an effective message, they might be so out of touch with reality that they would qualify for said mental institution.
 

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If someone thinks "lock people up in mental institutions to protect the police" is an effective message, they might be so out of touch with reality that they would qualify for said mental institution.
Successful businesses package their products differently for different customers. The Chevrolet MBAs learned that painfully when the Spanish speaking market boycotted their sedan called "Nova". Politicans do that also in their naming of laws, their sales pitch to their constituents, as well as the number of non related goodies some times added to a bill. Was everything in the Patriot Act really patriotic? I think it is time to get off of what we have now and try another approach. Those who actually do the work, not those of us pontificating on our PCs, will decide the future.
 

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Lately, it seems that those that scream loudest while destroying the most stuff decide the future, not the pontificators or the workers.
 

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Successful businesses package their products differently for different customers. The Chevrolet MBAs learned that painfully when the Spanish speaking market boycotted their sedan called "Nova"..
Urban legend. The Nova sold well in Central and South America. “Nova” in Spanish is “nova”. “It doesn’t go” is “no va”, and a native Spanish speaker would not mix them up.
 

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That's an interesting idea until you realize that others get to define "mentally ill", remember the "Patriot Act", no longer really patriotic, is it, as they spy on everyone they don't like.
 

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LEO Protection Act of 2022
I’ve been speculating about societal changes needed to more fully protect our LEOs. The following is from a non attorney, non social worker, non politician.

Many Officers are killed or injured while dealing with known mentally ill folks. Many of our conservative state legislators and governors claim to support the Guys and Gals in Blue. Let us test them by asking them to introduce and support a state LEO Protection Act of 2022. Which includes funds to build more mental institutions to house those who cannot live independently and whose families cannot adequately care for them. This could reduce the numbers in the local jails?? Alternately they could send more MEDICADE funds to the local jailers to gussy up their medical staffs.

The civil libertarians, such as I, will grit their teeth at more restrictions but the progressives will welcome more medical facilities and the conservatives will welcome better conditions for Cops so the states that need this type of program should come to terms quickly on it. Will Police Chiefs and police unions take this working idea and run up to their state capitol? Probably not, but we can still dream about a better future for the young folks.
Already been tried in the 40's 50's... society deemed them inhumane and dismantled the system...now these folks are mainstreamed into society, because woke folks don't want to damage their self esteem...you will Never see wholesale mental housing again in this country, but it is a nice dream
 

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Already been tried in the 40's 50's... society deemed them inhumane and dismantled the system...now these folks are mainstreamed into society, because woke folks don't want to damage their self esteem...you will Never see wholesale mental housing again in this country, but it is a nice dream
I do miss the old days and the term "insane asylum". I suspect between people with psych degrees and big pharma, there's more money to be made letting nuts run loose in the street.
 

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LEO Protection Act of 2022
I’ve been speculating about societal changes needed to more fully protect our LEOs. The following is from a non attorney, non social worker, non politician.

Many Officers are killed or injured while dealing with known mentally ill folks. Many of our conservative state legislators and governors claim to support the Guys and Gals in Blue. Let us test them by asking them to introduce and support a state LEO Protection Act of 2022. Which includes funds to build more mental institutions to house those who cannot live independently and whose families cannot adequately care for them. This could reduce the numbers in the local jails?? Alternately they could send more MEDICADE funds to the local jailers to gussy up their medical staffs.

The civil libertarians, such as I, will grit their teeth at more restrictions but the progressives will welcome more medical facilities and the conservatives will welcome better conditions for Cops so the states that need this type of program should come to terms quickly on it. Will Police Chiefs and police unions take this working idea and run up to their state capitol? Probably not, but we can still dream about a better future for the young folks.

We used to do that. Then conservatives cut state mental hospital budgets. The TX hospitals literally put these people on buses headed for downtown Houston.

Who would have imagined that such would make cops' jobs tougher? ??

Now we've come full circle?
 

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Hardly. Kennedy's 1963 Community Mental Health Act closed the state institutions. Once again, you can thank a liberal for turning our society to sh*t.

Dunno about Kennedy. In TX when repubs took over in the 1980s, that's when the hospitals closed and dumped the patients downtown. No liberals in sight.
 

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Will Police Chiefs and police unions take this working idea and run up to their state capitol? Probably not, but we can still dream about a better future for the young folks.
Chiefs and sheriffs have been screaming for help with mental health clients for years. The amount of time spent by LE collecting data and presenting it to elected officials is significant to say the least. Crisis Intervention Teams, Mental Health First Aid training, outreach to mental health “providers” (and I do use that term loosely) have all come to naught up to this point. If anything, it’s led to mission creep for LE on a massive scale with the results plain to see for anyone who cares to read the news.

LE knows about the mental health problem.

LE has told, actually pleaded, with elected officials about the mental health problem.

Nobody’s done jack $h!t about it. Typically because federal, state, and local governments, and the private sector, are busy pointing fingers at each other and claiming they can’t afford it. It’s a goddam joke.
 

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It sounds like a good idea but it seems that the powers that be no matter if its at the naitonal,state or even the local level ALWAYS abuse and misuse things..how many gun owners or people exerciseing thier rights or even someone with diferent political views might end up in one of these mental institutions..
 

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Dunno about Kennedy. In TX when repubs took over in the 1980s, that's when the hospitals closed and dumped the patients downtown. No liberals in sight.

That was in '81 when Reagan repealed the Mental Health Systems Act. It eliminated all the federal funding and grants for treatment.
 

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Big shifts:

1980
President Jimmy Carter signed the Mental Health Systems Act to fund more community health centers. But it focused on a broad range of a community's mental health needs. That lessened the federal government's focus on meeting the needs of those with chronic mental illness.


1981
President Reagan repealed the Act through the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1981. It shifted funding to the state through block grants. The grant process meant that community mental health centers competed with other public needs. Programs like housing, food banks, and economic development often won the federal funds instead.

2009
The Great Recession forced states to cut $4.35 billion in mental health spending in three years.
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Between 1955 and 1994, roughly 487,000 mentally ill patients were discharged from state hospitals. That lowered the number to only 72,000 patients. States closed most of their hospitals. That permanently reduced the availability of long-term, in-patient care facilities. By 2010, there were 43,000 psychiatric beds available. This equated to about 14 beds per 100,000 people.

As a result, 3.5 million people considered severely mentally ill do not receive any psychiatric treatment at all. About 200,000 of those who suffer from schizophrenia, depression, or bipolar disorder often become homeless.

Sixteen percent of all inmates are severely mentally ill. There are almost 10 times as many severely mentally ill people in jails and prisons than in hospitals.
 

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All self inflicted wounds to our society.

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