I have become a huge fan of my G17. I first got a 19 3rd gen and thought it was the best but I wanted to try a 17. The longer grip frame seemed like it would fit my hand better. So one day last week I set out on my quest I came across a few G22s but no 17. That was at 3 different shops across Columbia. My suspicions were right however. The grip on the 17 did feel perfect. Then on a whim I swung past PSA here in Columbia at the original location on Farrow rd. I got to talking with a buddy that works behind the counter there and mentioned I really wanted G17 but a 4th gen, and hadnt seen one anywhere, including both PSA shops. He said I think we have one in the back, if I get it do you want it? I said Heck yes!! Sure enough he came out of the back with a huge grin and a G17 gen 4 test fire date of 6-12-12!! I was ecstatic! Did the paperwork and paid, out the door I went. I got home and ran at least 150 round through it. Those 3 17 round mags make it easy to burn up some ammo. Ive since put about 850 rounds down range including the 100 today, till I was tired of the sweat getting in my eyes or I would be over 1000. This one is running perfectly, all brass lands at about 3:304 oclock. I have 10 mags for it so thats a good start. ;-) Problem now, I need a second G17! Good thing there is a gun show this weekend!!!