The Enemy Once Again Reveals Their Real Goal

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  1. stevelyn

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    When enemy operatives such as Hitlery or the democrap camp and their useful idiots refer to Australia and Britain's gun control models, they are revealing their true intent which is registration and confiscation.

    http://www.vox.com/2015/8/27/9212725/australia-buyback
     
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    Can't be said enough. The goal is to get the guns, giving an inch is an inch we will never get back. Universal background checks is a step in this process.
     
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    I thought the goal was to have Americans call other Americans enemies thus rendering everyone impotent to affect change.
     
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    They are enemies. One of the reasons we are where we are now is that the majority of Americans failed to recognize the enemy. I don't consider those trying to take what's mine an American.
     
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    You are only the enemy if you support universal background checks.
     
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    Yet they are.Just as much as you are.
     
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    These issues are going to go into overdrive up to the general election, hold on tight. Either can support your favorite pro-gun advocates.
     
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    I doubt you'll ever get it.
     
  9. Random

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    I abhor ignorance, but I hope I never 'get it'. Everyone I talk to that seems to get it is content to sit back divided. They're all proponents of slicing and dicing people into as small of groups as possible until all of our voices are seperate, quiet, and weak. I don't like weak.
    This board is full of people that get it. I could give them a year and they wouldn't be able to agree on a set of guidelines for a homeowners association.
     
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    Most of us just want to keep our guns without more government interference. I thought that was simple. I'm sure you and I can find many things we agree about.
     
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    What voice would you like to roar? I want to divide the other side as much as possible, I want to gain as much political ground as possible every chance we get. Pass as many pro-gun laws in as many states as possible, it isn't an option everywhere, but we have plenty of opportunities. Go to the other extreme and force a longer road them to have to walk back. Force battles to be on our legislation, not just stop what you don't like.
     
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    The democrats have come out of the closet. They used to pose as somewhat pro gun to get elected. Now they talk about gun confiscation as they try to get elected.
    They called us racist for saying Obam was a socialist. Now they have a member of the socialist party seeking their nomination.
     
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    Look, silliness from a fool.
     
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    You associate living in a deed restricted community (a voluntary decision btw) with peeling back an enumerated, inalienable right in the Constitution... I don't get it... Trying to decide what's an acceptable paint color in a neighborhood you choose to live in with the understanding there are rules isn't exactly the same a surrendering your basic rights to the Feds...

    Why do I want to "affect change" to my freedom? What kind of fool thinks there is some kind of problem with freedom so we have to change it?
     
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    First, it appears that you don't know what the words 'enumerate' or 'inalienable' mean. You should google them. Don't want you to go surrendering any inalienable rights.

    Second, you seem to want to take the 'holier than thou' route and pretend like I've denigrated or lessened the importance of the constitution by likening it to a set of HOA Guidelines. I get your angle, but it's a poor one so I'll play along.

    **Okay - Now I think HOA Guidelines are just like The Constitution of the United States - Let's go**

    HOAs are little governments that establish guidelines for their little society to abide by. You do get that living in America is voluntary also? Much like a HOA when no one is forcing you to live in that neighborhood. You chose to live there/here. You traded the freedom/luxury/choice to be able to paint your house black for the consistency of appearance, security, and residential recreational amenities given to you in exchange for those choices and freedoms.

    Third, I'll try to be more delicate because I suspect you really may not understand what you wrote or what I said.

    I said: Dividing Americans makes us unable to affect change

    You said: (quote) "Why do I want to "affect change" to my freedom? What kind of fool thinks there is some kind of problem with freedom so we have to change it?"


    Okay, I'm not sure if it's the meaning of the word "affect" or the concept that's throwing you, but I think we can clear it up.

    Affecting change doesn't always mean getting rid of something. It means influencing something. Your 'freedom', or what I suspect your understanding of the concept to be, changes around you daily.

    EXAMPLE: Affordable Care Act. That changed around you without any participation needed on your part. Your freedom changed. Wouldn't you have liked to have been able to affect that change?

    Get it? Freedom is fluid. It isn't perfect and it isn't unchanging. Best we can currently do is try to influence the direction it's going.
     
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    Riiiight. Well, can't argue with that kind of logic. Good luck with that TX.
     
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    In case anyone ever wonders, this is exactly what politicians count on to get elected. Constant bickering and arguing between "sides".

    "My way is the right way and you hate America!"

    "No, MY way is the right way and you use the Constitution as a doormat!"

    "Yeah, well F you! I'm gonna vote for so-and-so! He promises to make my way the law!!"

    Oversimplifying it a bit perhaps, but politicians depend on a polarized country to get elected, and often do all they can to foment such polarization. No, I don't know of a "better" way, but it just seems a bit depressing that we have to be constantly pitted against "the enemy" (other Americans) to vote for the leaders of the country. Like him or not, Random does have a point.
     
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    Politicians manufacture a problem then campaign to be (re)elected to moderate the problem. Almost said "fix the problem" but common sense prevailed.


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    I freely admit, I can't argue with you, I need help just translating most of your posts.
     
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    You don't seem to have any trouble understanding my posts. You even presented a well-formed rebuttal defending division amongst americans as a means for one party to gain control. It was a good argument.
    The party you want to use to fragment the other groups is itself in pieces and lacks coherence. We are so good at dividing that we don't know when or how to stop.