The Democrats have a real problem...

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  1. TheDreadnought

    TheDreadnought

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    ... and they are finally starting to catch on.

    They have no viable candidate. Unless something happens out of nowhere, they are probably looking at a contested convention. Coming out of that, one faction or another is going to be pissed off, and the candidate is going down in flames. Let’s have a look.

    Warren is unelectable due to her extreme positions. Everybody but her, Sanders, and the Squad seem to realize this.

    Sanders is a more extreme, more shouty, more male Warren. Zero chance of nomination, or in the general.

    Joe Biden is a doddering old man with a sketchy record who is corrupt AF, and stupid enough to brag about it. He is dropping like a stone.

    Pete B has zero support among blacks, partially because he is gay. He can’t get the nomination, and if he did most black voters will just stay home.

    Everybody hates Bloomberg for one reason or another depending on their identity.

    ... and I highly doubt Hillary is being pressured by ANYONE to run again, except for Bill who wants some more interns.

    Nobody else even registers anymore.

    If the Dems were smart, they would nominate Gabbard, who is moderate enough to get elected, not gay, not senile, and not Hillary. But they aren’t smart enough to do that.

    So, short of a major unforeseen event, or irrational anti-Trumper Repubs being stupid enough to let a Dem into office by not turning out... things look good for Trump.
     
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  2. Vic777

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    very interesting analysis .... I think Bernie can win a convention, but he's stupid enough to make a deal ....
     

  3. ranger1968

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    Yup, the Democrats have a real problem....

    His name is Donald Trump.
     
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  4. serve_and_protect

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    Your analysis of the D candidates is accurate, but.............


    1. Don't forget about Kamala. She hasn't gotten much attention lately, but she is still in the race, and she is positioning herself as less extreme than Bernie and Warren.


    2. If there is a contested convention, they could nominate somebody who isn't running as a "compromise candidate." For example, Michelle Obama, Al Gore (remember him?), some D governor/senator, etc.


    3. Demographics are destiny. We can't afford to get complacent and assume the 2020 election is in the bag. Trump won several states by very narrow margins.

    For example, Trump won Florida by 113,000 votes. Since then, lots of immigrants in Florida have become citizens, lots of teenagers have turned 18 and can vote now, and many elderly Trump voters have passed away. And that's not even counting the 1.5 million convicted felons who are now able to vote. With 1.5 million felons having their voting rights restored, that 113,000 vote margin from 2016 seems quite narrow.

    Trump won Arizona by just 91,000 votes.

    Some of the Midwestern states were even closer. Trump won Pennsylvania by 44,300 votes. He won Michigan by 10,700 votes. He won Wisconsin by 22,750 votes.

    These are tiny margins. And that was back in 2016. Since then, as I mentioned above, lots of immigrants have become citizens, lots of teens are now old enough to vote, and a significant number of elderly Trump voters have passed away.


    The Democrats are hoping that the demographic change alone will win them the election, even if they run a very weak candidate.




    My personal view is that if we don't get complacent, and if we work hard, Trump will win a second term.
     
  5. PEC-Memphis

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    And if they would vote for Hillary, they would vote for any one with a (D) behind their name.
     
  6. triaxle

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    If we come out we will win . and we will, they will say we stole it or who knows what. If they win this time America is sunk .
     
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  7. NMG26

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    Maybe some actor will save the party. I'm hoping they never are attractive again..........good chance of that
     
  8. hogship

    hogship A republic, if you can keep it! Silver Member

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    Yep......and, DJT won't get reelected because the D's don't have a worthwhile candidate......he will get reelected because he's earning the trust of the people he represents, his performance, and because he's shown that he actually puts the country above his own personal interests.

    And......if he gets the house, keeps the senate.....we will likely see a Trumpnado, like we haven't seen yet! :flag:

    MAGA, KAG, DTS.....:dancingbanana:
     
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  9. hogship

    hogship A republic, if you can keep it! Silver Member

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    Don't forget about the changing Black vote......there is plenty of pro-Trump, pro R, pro-conservative opposition among themselves, to the usual rubber stamp of the D vote. Many Blacks are definitely re-thinking their voting habits.

    I think you could assume the Hispanic vote is changing for the better, too.....:flag:

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  10. army_eod

    army_eod US Army Retired, EOD, PM, PMP

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    CNN's Toobin just said the same thing. The Dems have a problem.
    AOC admitted that they cannot beat Trump.
    So looking good for us and bad for Dems.
     
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    Thing is, even if Trump wins in 2020, which I believe he will, in a close election just like '16, so long as 1. we all turn out to vote for him, and 2. he is still alive in Nov. 2020, where do we go post- Trump in '24? Demographics are going to sound the death knell for the GOP as far as Presidential elections are concerned. It will do the same to many Senate & House elections. We are focusing on the next 5 years, which is important, but after that, come 2025, it is over.

    What is the plan then?
     
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  12. Mayhem like Me

    Mayhem like Me Semper Paratus

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  13. jeanderson

    jeanderson Making America great again! Platinum Member

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    ^^^ I see that as more of a problem for Democrats than for Republicans. I see a repeat of 1988. People will look back at the last 8 years and think things were pretty good. And the Democrats? What's their slogan going to be - "Let's try socialism, it worked for Venezuela"?
     
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  14. Dave Lively

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    Kamala has one big weakness that never gets talked about by the other candidates in the primary. She got her start in politics by having a sexual relationship with Willie Brown, speaker of the California assembly and later mayor of San Francisco. Harris was much better looking and half his age when this started. He appointed her to a couple of state commissions and much more importantly introduced her to the political power brokers in California and showed her the ropes of being a politician. When she ran for public office he became a liability and she dropped him like a hot potato.

    While a lot of people in the Democratic party love the idea of electing the first woman president they are less enthusiastic about electing one that slept her way into power. My Hillary loving, democrat voting, long time Bay area resident sister has told me she will vote third party or even Trump(gasp!) if Harris became the Democratic nominee.

    Suggesting a woman, any woman ever, used sex as a tool for personal advancement would be suicide in the Democratic primary. But Trump would have a field day with it. He probably has a bunch of Tweets ready to go. While Democrats may want to pretend that no woman has ever used use sex as a tool most people know better even if they do not say so out loud. And other women seem to get much more upset by this then men do. California is going to vote for whoever the Democrats nominate so my sister's vote doesn't matter. But in a lot of swing states this issue will make a difference.

    When I was in high school Lysistrata was on the reading list if you were on the college path and took classical literature. Which was surprising given the R rated content. I bet it is banned on liberal college campuses these days. While it had a pacifist tone its portrayal of ancient Greek women was not as flattering as modern feminists require. Better to ban a classic 2400 year old comedy than risk being politically incorrect.
     
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    Nah. Their real problem is the extreme Left.

    Smart Dems are looking forward to setup 2024.
    Their let the extreme Left define who they are.
     
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    Bigbluefish presents a good analysis as well.

    One of the things that impressed me about Mr. Reagan was his willingness to work on behalf of other candidates. It translated into him having a basis in his party to bring support from different factions and geographical areas. He lost the Party nomination to Mr. Goldwater. Nonetheless, he campaigned on behalf of Mr. Goldwater and other candidates for office. I call this "toiling in the trenches", doing the spadework to build a coalition.

    I provide a stark contrast. Mrs. Clinton has not campaigned for any Democratic candidate (to my knowledge) within the last two years and cannot stop coming up with public pronouncements of the latest reason for her defeat. I don't understand that any of the other Democratic candidates did anything on behalf on other candidates for office.

    Of course, what I call civility, consensus building and reaching out will be described as bootlicking by the next guy.
     
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    the dems know they dont have a shot, hence why they are using methods like impeachment-fbi collusion conspiracy investigations etc to inflict as much damage as they can because they cant offer america anything with a booming economy and people fat and happy
     
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  18. GcB

    GcB Can't type, don't spell, what's grammar.

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    The American people are the ones with a Politician problem wether it be dem or repub!!
     
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  19. rock_castle

    rock_castle Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness

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    This is the entire reason for this impeachment charade. Their only chance in 2020 is to try to cripple the President. It's sad and patheric. I don't get how any sane rational person can vote Democrat right now.
     
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    I hope and pray the President Trump is re-elected.
    I could not wait to turn 18 so I could vote for Ronald Reagan and I think President Trump is every bit as good as President Reagan, maybe better.

    But, please don't get lulled into a sense of complacency. Let us keep the momentum.

    Show your support. I have met a number of people who are Trump supporters but are apprehensive to show it. The more we are consolidated, the more comfortable people will be and the public perception and momentum should increase. Flags, hats, stickers, signs; Let us flood the world with visual manifestation of our support.

    And, ABSOLUTELY, TURN OUT TO VOTE!!! Do not assume that your friend, brother, sister, neighbor, or co-worker, will carry it for you. The dems are pulling out all of the underhanded stops for votes. We have to do it the honest way, with legitimate numbers, the will of the people.

    Re-elect President Trump!!! Keep America Great!!!
    :waving:
     
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