The Cold War Spies of BRIXMIS

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  1. Jade Falcon

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    If you have 45 minutes to watch this, it is quite fascinating. Mainly from a British perspective, however, there are also perspectives from the US and Russia as well.



    I was surprised at how ill-disciplined the Soviets were. But perhaps I shouldn't be.....Communism doesn't exactly encourage intelligent reasoning.

    If any of you have stories about your service during the Cold War, please share them here. :flag:
     
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    That looks GREAT! I am going to start on it now. Been doing some reading on that era spies as well. Interesting.
     
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    We do mutual business with another horse facility owned by the first woman to be a station chief. Fascinating gal. HH
     
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    Not related, but my mother is best friends with one of the 52 hostages from the Iranian Hostage crisis of 1979. She (my mother's friend) was a Diplomat at the time, but a former Lieutenant in the Navy before that.

    It's interesting how we meet people like this sometimes; people who had rare experiences that nonetheless had an impact on history.

    ETA: Oh, and she is NOT interesting at all, unfortunately.....she is a bitter old Liberal woman who adopted a child from Israel as a young woman, only to have him grow up into a Conspiracy-ravaged nutjob who tried to kill his girlfriend with a hammer because he thought she was a government spy. No joke.
     
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    Well the reason the Chinese hordes invaded Korea is because a highly placed spy in the British Govt. assured the reds Truman wouldn't authorize the use of atomic weapons in Korea.

    In 1943 we stupidly entered into The Quebec agreement with England and one of the stipulations was we'd work together to make the bomb, and, not ever use one without the OK of the other country. Indeed we didn't need British help in the first place and in that agreement we gave them 1/2 the authority for nuclear release,

    And we gave it to a post war British Govt. rife with communist sympathizers. Even todays you see the remenants of the post war socialist set in our top universities and like in the '40s and '50s they are usually well off people with time on their hands to wax philosophical about the Glory's of communism/socialism/and the workers state they themselves never spent a day in. Some are still tottering away in The Bernie Bunch.

    But the Brit Govt. was infested with them. One of the worst being the Philby spy ring.

    Even among the Intellectuals building the weapons there were those who thought the world would be safer if Stalin had some too. I suppose it never occurred to them that an American President has to answer to the people should one have to use such a device while Stalin had to answer to nobody. Just ask the ghosts of all the millions he killed in the Gulag's and thru state sanctioned starvation pogroms.

    Sharing atomic secrets with the Brits was a big reason Stalin even had the bomb in 1949 in the first place.
     
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    One of my Scoutmasters in the 90s and early 2000s was a Navy Officer on a Submarine during the Cold War, and he used to tell us how they would fight with Soviet Subs and fire Torpedoes at one-another. I cannot even imagine how terrifying that must have been. Sub warfare is a special kind of scary, especially as you can't see what's being fired at you. And the Soviets certainly fired back.