The bloodiest single day in American history: 158 years ago today

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  1. Detectorist

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    In a few months I'm going to visit a few battlefields.
     
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    70DD4241-4105-406B-A4EA-BBDCE69DEA64.jpeg Been there, and visited Gettysburg Just two weeks ago, this guy, CPL George William Forrester 14th Brooklyn was there too, only he didn’t make it back.
    He is still there now.
     

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    For those that don't learn from history must repeat it . Looks like that is where we are going . GOD help us .
     
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    G33 Frisky! Millennium Member CLM

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    You are very simple minded!
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    It took the ratification of the 13th Amendment to finally free the last of the Union held slaves. And the first vote, NJ voted No. They only had a few slaves remaining but they sure as hell did not want to free them. Maybe they had a vision of like, what could go wrong. Union States KY and DE had more slaves and they also voted No.
    Lincoln's Presidency was terminated on April 15, 1865. The ratification of the 13th Amendment was December 6, 1865.

    Why the big cover up to hide the fact that the North had slavery for 200 years, dating back to the colonial period and lasting until well after the Civil War was over? Why do pro Union fans love to say the war was to free the slaves? Yea right, to free the slaves of the Southern Confederacy while they kept their own slaves. Define hypocrisy.

    Now really, who has a "false interpretation of history"?
     
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    The initial purpose of the war was to keep the States in the Union, not to free the slaves.
     
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    No, I just know history.
     
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    Yes this is true. Lincoln said his war was to preserve the Union. But after a couple hundred thousand Union soldiers were dead, the Northern people started to lose interest in having their men and boys killed in Lincolns war. He needed something more compelling to keep the population support of his invasion. So he suckered them into fighting and dying even more by saying now the war is to free the slaves.
     
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    Lincoln, in his first inaugural address, stated emphatically that he had "...no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so."
     
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    I wouldn't be proud of that. That's kind of sick.
     
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    If that's your interpretation...fine. Just remember the reason why the South hated Lincoln even before he became president.
     
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    Americans are very good at killing each other.
    At least we were. I never thought I would see the day when I saw so many people that needs killing.
     
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    So?
     
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    Yea because they thought that this Tyrant was going to interfere with the billion dollar enterprise they had created that was perfectly legal and supported by a recent Supreme Court ruling and an act of Congress. And they were right.
     
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    Lincoln, in his first inaugural address, stated emphatically that he had "...no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so."
    What a lying sack of sh!t Lincoln was.
     
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    I didn't take part, durrr. I witnessed it being broken up, kid getting medical attention.
     
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    These were my ansestors on my mother’s side. My Grandma and Grandpa were from the mountains of TN. My dads side fought for the Confederate states.
     
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    Lincoln fired McClennan two weeks later. Reminds me of our current POTUS - no more BS excuses
     
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    I wonder how the war would have changed had McClellan pursued Lee into Virginia.