Vic, I worry for you a bit. Evil in God's creation came from somewhere. If it was not God's doing, then where, what, who? It is pretty much plain as day that it absolutely had to be God's doing. You don't have to absolve God for the matter. God takes full responsibility. It is a sin to absolve God for his creation. I can see that this is hard for you. This whole thread is a paradox of logic. The bible is NOT a love letter. The Bible from start to finish is a book of adversity. It starts in the garden of Eden with the serpent. It ends with the full conquest of all creation. The in-between is the adversity of the tribe of Israel, the passion of Christ, the persecution of the church. In the midst of this book of adversity is the love letter of the Creator, Jesus Christ. Remember Jesus Christ is The Logos! The Word! The Love Letter! Can you admit that the Bible is not a love letter? Can you admit that theology gets it wrong? When all is said and done we have one thing that we stand on, one thing and one thing alone! Jesus Christ the living Lord and savior of all men! Especially of those going through the adversity while working out their salvation in faith. I do enjoy the thread though Vic. I've gained a lot from it. .