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Discussion in 'Cop Talk' started by JSandi, Jan 31, 2011.
That's not Radley Balko's work. I'd enjoy seeing a factual refutation by you, of Balko's work.
Somebody bust out the platform shoes and butterfly collars. It appears what was old is new again.
Holy thread resurrection Batman!
Sorry. Just piling on.
No kidding!!! For a moment I thought JSandi was back and was wondering who said his name 3 times!?!?!?!
Then answer this.
Why do I see so many LEO's that are too damn lazy or undertrained on making a correct approach while making a traffic stop? Statistically that is one of the most dangerous things a uniformed officer does.
Makes me want to stop Yell at them "DumbA@@, Do it right!!!!!".
IMO: More attacks on officers can be attributed to 1. More dirtbags on the street. 2. Lace panties judges. 3. Revolving door policy. 4. "Cut a deal" DA's. 5. Glorifying "cop killer" dirtbags.
I'd like to see the statistics on how many incidents involve repeat offenders and/or multiple offenders. (assuming all gang-bangers are automatically repeat offenders)
Part of the answer is in EOD's post.
You are correct, some officers are too lazy and have become too complacent and forget or disregard skills they have learned. However, generally speaking our training, tactics, and equipment have come a long ways in the past 30 years.
In response to one of our people being killed on a traffic stop back in the early eighties, we changed our procedures to calling in ALL motor vehicle stops on the radio instead of only night stops, riding dual patrols on the midnight shift, adapted the H&K P7M8 service weapon in place of the revolvers we carried, put shotguns in the cars, made kevlar vests standard issue, and even went so far as to not make our "trooper of the year" award public. We in law enforcement have been improving and evolving over the decades.
Did you ever wonder why, when you walk into a station house and look at the pictures of the deceased officers on the wall, there are more black and white pictures than there are colored pics? It's because of improved training, tactics and equipment...
if you want a real hoot google JSandi and read the first search result.
He's kinda hot. Now, if we only had a member if FL that could investigate and report...
Dang Sam, I just said read the first search result not click on the link!
Cartman - "I've been licking this carpet for 3 hours and I still don't feel like a l______."
I worked with one partner for about a year. He was a better driver and I was better using the MDT and digging up information. He would roll his eyes whenever I put us out over the radio for traffic stops (all the time).
One week I was away on annual leave and he stopped a suspicious car with out of province plates (from Washington state) on a quiet residential street. He had not put himself out on a traffic stop. When he approached the car he recognized the driver as one of our local mutants and opened the driver door. The driver put the car in reverse and the constable found himself sharing the front seat with the driver in a fist fight as the car careened across an intersection and hit a stop sign coming to a stop. During this my partner tried to broadcast on his radio which somehow ended up on another patrol district channel. They both spilled out of the car and the suspect managed to get both snaps undone on the holster during the fight (Safariland 070) with only the internal retention left. Fearing a gun grab he drew his pistol and continued to fight until cover arrived. It was a fresh stolen that had not been reported yet.
My partner never rolled his eyes at me again when I always put us out on traffic stops. He's lucky that he didn't end up on our memorial wall.