Fred thanks for talking me into buying a pound of WST. I went to the range today and was very happy. WST is a very clean powder and accurate like you said. I can't wait to work some loads up in 9mm also. What I shot today was 45 auto. I loaded some at 4.4 grains, 4.7 grains and 4.9 grains. All of them shot and functioned fine. I shot them all at a standard IDPA target from 15 yards. The target might not look that good but for me it was, let me explain. In 1988 I had an eye injury that left me totally blind for two years. After two years the good lord gave me back my vision. I never shot a gun until four years ago. The last four years I have been trying to shoot right hand left eye because my right eye isn't good enough to see the sights. Today I decided to shoot left handed for the first time so I am very happy with that target. There are 90 shots in there. I am going to do just about all of my training left handed this year and shoot my matches left handed and see how it goes. Sorry for going on with the long post but it was a great day all around. Thanks again for turning me on to WST.