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Thank you, Armscor !!

Discussion in 'Band of Glockers' started by revo, May 5, 2007.

  1. revo

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    Mga kapatid, I know that this is a Glock forum but sometimes kelangan natin tangkilikin ang sariling atin when it is appropriate.

    I just got back from the range with my brand new RIA Match Target.

    The story of this new gun actually started last year when I posted on this on the 1911 forum -

    http://forum.m1911.org/showthread.php?t=21290

    My free gun finally arrived last week courtesy of Ivan and Martin and here's my range report.

    Say hello to my new little friend - (Retail value : US$650.00)

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    And here's my target at 25 meters (20 rounds @ 25 meters)

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    Needless to say, the gun exceeds my expectations. :D Armscor has come a long way. This is a factory gun.

    However, ever the nitpicker, I will point out some small issues with the gun -

    1) The left side panel moves around a wee bit. Merely an excuse to get new grips. No problem.

    2) I shot 100 rounds of my own reloads. 230 gr LRN, 4.0 grs Clays, 1.2 OAL. I had 3 failures to extract. Aha..yet another execuse to buy yet an EGW extractor - of which I have had great success with in the recent past.

    Mabuhay ang Armscor and the Tuasons !!
     
  2. Eye Cutter

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    congrats on your new trojan!
     

  3. mrwiggins

    mrwiggins lookout ladies

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    i hope to do some business with them soon.
     
  4. isuzu

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    That's a very nice gun! Read your post in m1911.org, and I like the way Mr. Tuason responds to his customers' problems.

    I bet you're gonna have fun with it.;)
     
  5. 9MX

    9MX Rei!

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    I wonder if they do the same here in the Philippines:upeyes:
     
  6. Valor1

    Valor1 Range Bum

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    Agree. Does Armscor offer a lifetime warranty in the Philippines now?
     
  7. tagaykoyan

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    definitely not. but i bought an RIA from them anyway:supergrin:
     
  8. boni

    boni ako ito bok!

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    sir, yung referring to RIA at Armscor parang the same make lng. ba't dito samin parang ang pagkakilala eh iba ang armscor at RIA sir. can any1 enlighten me on this? :)
     
  9. darwin25

    darwin25 Make your move

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    Check out Martin's reply to my posthttp://forum.m1911.org/showthread.php?p=286956#post286956

    He sent me a PM too assuring me that he is doing everything he can to improve their customer service here in the Philippines

    Kudos to Martin.
     
  10. tagaykoyan

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    its basically the same gun. Twin Pines got the right to market Armscor guns in the US under the brand name "Rock Island Armory". the Armscor branch in Pahrump, Nevada is managed by Twin Pines.

    RIA's got some sort of a cult following in the US now due to its unbeatable price/performance. check out other 1911 forums (m1911.org etc)
     
  11. chowchow

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    RIA rocks mga kapatid. Congrats.
     
  12. horge

    horge -=-=-=-=- Lifetime Member

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    It's actually the other way around :)
    Armscor is the contract builder and US importer for Twin Pines' RIA.
    Under contract, Armscor can maintain a Twin Pines shell in Pahrump.
    It is the Tuasons who have a meat-and-bones Nevada presence.
    The Topacios on the other hand own the Rock Island Armory brand name.

    Relativity comes into play, though. From Twin Pines' POV,
    they're paying Armscor to build and US-market their guns.
    From Armscor's POV, they;re paying Twin Pines a fee to use
    the RIA brand on guns they build..
     
  13. Django

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    Not so.

    A couple of friends and I personally visited the Armscor office at 150 North Smart Way, Pahrump, Nevada last March.

    It's about an hour's drive from downtown Las Vegas. I met their General Manager, Ms. Fe Grayblas, a very nice lady as well as their Sales Manager, an American (forgot his name)who's an active USPSA/IPSC shooter.

    Fe is a Filipina who's married to an American. She also knows our Gina here of Marikina Armscor and sends her regards to her.

    The Armscor Pahrump branch sell firearms and bullets to gun dealers but do not sell to specific individuals. They also maintain a Filipino gunsmith (who worked at Armscor Marikina before) there to repair all Armscor FA's. Unfortunately he was not around when we visited but I saw a few 1911's (2 hi-caps and 1 SS) on his work table.
     
  14. maskytrading

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    What I wish for is that Armscor or RIA or sti/armscor make an all stainless steel pistol (frame and slide), hi-cap and long dust cover, FO front, low mount fixed or any good adjustable rear sight, ambi safety, ducktail grip, bull barrel, FLGR, long trigger, light hammer etc. for standard competition in either .45ACP or 10MM or .40SW. Then I'll get one each :upeyes:
     
  15. batangueno

    batangueno Shock Resist

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    You finally got it revo. Congrats. :thumbsup:

    masky, you can always get a stock armscor hicap then customize it to your liking. That's actually the fun part of getting a 1911. :)
     
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    With the features I mentioned, I have a running head start...and if/since it would be mass manufactured, the costs would be lower if I commissioned a smith to customize from scratch.
     
  17. batangueno

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    masky, i believe you can already get an armscor with the features you mentioned except for the long dust cover.
     
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    Actually, if only armscor could manufacture "long dust cover all stainless frame hi-cap" for standard pistols I'll be more than happy...Even though I haven't joined any competition (just planning)still I don't fancy holding the synthetics(grips etc.)...maybe I'm just old school or obsolete:)
     
  19. Eye Cutter

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    i'm no expert with metals, maybe horge can chime in but is there an advantage using stainless vs. ordinary carbon steel for firearms?

    pagkakaintindi ko, stainless provides better rust protection pero mas brittle naman ang stainless so more prone to cracking.
     
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    You got that right, Alvin.

    The chromium that makes steel stainless also makes it more
    vulnerable to catastrophic fatigue. This is why the best
    fighting swords, which take a heck of a worse beating in use
    than pistol frames/slides are made with good carbon steel.

    JMO but, the qualities of Armscor's cast 4140 seem to be among
    the best out there (along with Fabrique Nationale / Herstal's
    for its Grande Puissance) for use in autoloader frames.

    If I wanted to rustproof a firearm, I'd rather go with nickel
    or one of the many bake-on polycoats. The exception would be
    marine use (saltwater). Boat guns are best in stainless -- they
    don't get used often enough for the brittleness of stainless to
    become a factor before corrosion does.


    -horge