Does anyone shoot these for muzzleloader season? How do they do? Are they better then other 250gr standard bullets?
Hi, I saw you other thread and started to assume that this goes hand in hand. I tryed the shockwave and was not 100% impress from their performance. Now you talk to other hunters and they swear up and down with the TC bullets . Was this the bullet that you used on that deer that got away? Man you are looking, I hunted my last day of MZl season and only wish I just saw a deer
I have had great success with the T/C 300 grain Shockwave. It is the same bullet as the Hornady SST with a differnt' color tipp. I have also done very well with the SST in my muzzleloader as has my friend. I'm getting 7/8" groups at 100 yards with 85 grains of 777 FFG. The deer I have shot with it died fast. Question, were you using the yellow tip or the blue tip? The blue tip is bonded and should be used for tougher skinned animals.
{It is the same bullet as the Hornady SST with a differnt' color tipp} are you 100% sure about ? I remember ready somewhere where their was difference outside of the tip color and the jacketing and I think the tips are longer. One thing for sure you need a clean bbl. I mean squeaky clean to load them shockwave up. I think the sabot is oversize or bigger than the ones package with the 300gr SST froim from hornady. Even the SSTs are hard to load when compared to others. I had to buy a screw on T-handle just to ram them down the bbls of 2 of my 50cals. I also have to wet patch my bbl and I also started using a 20ga ( iirc) copper brush down my bore between firing. One think I heard from folks that have killed numerous game animals with the SST ( which I would assume is applicable for the TC/shockwave ) is the bullet jacket is much thicker so you need magnum level of charge and higher velocities to get good kills and expansion.Basically what I was told plain and simple, if you have a non-magnum mzl'er you will waste you time & money using them due to you can get better performance with a different bullet.
100%? No. Just what I have heard and read. I have both at home, the sabots seem to be a tad smaller on the SST's. I shoot mine with 85 grains of 777 FFG which is equal to about 100 grains of Pyrodex. It has performed well for me, though I have not recovered any bullets. Complete pass through on all shots with a larger then .45 caliber exit wound.
I found this on chuckhawk site that might lead to more reasons on this issue and paccw deer. http://www.chuckhawks.com/bullets_deer_10ML.htm If the SST and T/C-Shockwave are the in deed the same bullet, then it looks like the 300gr SST is NOT a good choice. I have hear mix feedback with these bullets from the field. I 'm still not convince enough either way to depart from my trusty 44caliber 240/300-XTP in my 50cal MZL'er. I have tried both XTPs/SSTs/Shockwaves/PowerBelt and always came back to the trusty XTP which I think is the best JHP for hunting deer with a muzzleloader.
Give me warning before posting a Randy Wakeman article ;g ;e I kinda look at him as the Dean Speer of the muzzleloading world ;f The XTP is an excellent bullet for deer. When I got a new ML the other year I tried them along with the Shockwave and SST's and power belts. The Shockwaves shot so well and performed so good for me they won hands down. If I ever get the ML barrel for my Encore I'll have to shoot them all again to see which works best ;f
No I was shooting TC 250 gr PXT(I think) they are just a standard hollow point. I think I'd rather use the Hornady 250 gr with a red tip (I think)I'm more of a fan of Hornady.