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Taking scenics is harder in December.

Discussion in 'Through-the-Lens Club' started by sjfrellc, Dec 31, 2006.

  1. sjfrellc

    sjfrellc CLM

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    I went biking and hiking yesterday in Michigan and the sun was so low on the horizon. Compared to October the colors were not there.
    I'm not sure if a link to one of my Picasaweb albums will work here,but here it is:


    Link to view some photos I took December 30th in Michigan


    Below is a contrast between October vs. December: (October Wins!)




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    The October pictures were taken with a Nikon D70 with a 18-70 lens.
    The December pictures were taken with a Nikon D200 18-200 lens(Christmas present to myself). I had previously had good results setting the D70 to vivid, but you can see the December pictures also taken with the D200's optimize image, vivid mode had a bit too much color added.

    The 18-200 lens at 18mm:
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    And at 200mm focal length:
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  2. JimBianchi

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    I love the contrast of the two scenes: But to take it a step further here is what I'd do:

    Take the December photo into a Photo Imaging software (Photoshop, or others) and desaturate the color until it's appears Black and White. (I like to leave black and white photos still in their original color mode because you can do more with their tone that way. An RGB color photo can have 16 million colors, an True B&W can have as little as 16 tones. Big differance.)

    Then boost the contrast until you like what you see.

    Play with the white blance and black density a little and you will eventually have a stunning B&W photo that will rival the color one in dramatic appeance.(for some people, anyways)

    October is an excellent color photo. Good job.

    Jim
    (Yes, I am a photographer, and use to teach these things in classes and seminars a gave a few years ago.)
     

  3. sjfrellc

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    So far I'm only qualified to use Picasa to do B&W then sharpen. I have Photoshop but I'm really low on the learning curve. This photo shows more sharpness on my screen before I exported it from Picasa. I don't think its as sharp as it should be here:

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    Edited to add: Here's the photshop version:

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    Would anyone like to see a clicheed picture of Jonathan Livingston Seagull?:

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  5. MrsKitty

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    I didn't realize the colors were that numerous!
     
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    Thanks Jim Bianchi. Since I'm inexperienced in Photoshop what photoshop tools play with the white balance and black density?
    Curves, color balance, contrast, selective color? I used desaturate, auto contrast, selective color in this picture.
     
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    Two tools I find most rewarding:

    1. Image -> Adjust -> Channel Mixer

    That allows you to convert to B&W while applying B&W-like filters to the original color scene.

    2. Image -> Adjust -> Gradient Map

    That allows you to spread B&W gradient across the entire range of tonality of the image.

    Both tools are highly adjustable, and you can of course adjust the photo in color first, and then you can do the normal levels adjustments after conversion to B&W.
     
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    Am I the only one who tweaks curves sometimes?
     
  9. hwyhobo

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    No, I tried it sometimes in color, but it is difficult. One day I may learn it better, who knows.
     
  10. JimBianchi

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    http://luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/duotone.shtml


    The above link is an exellent tutorial on B&W. (great web site for learning all about photography also)

    The stuff they show you can make museum quality B&W prints.

    Practice practice practice. (When I print B&W for sale or framing I usally waste three times as much paper and ink as color images. It's tough for everyone....)

    Happy New Year!



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  11. Laramie In MT

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    Slightly different composition but safe vinyard and mountains.

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