Ok after reading everything and asking everybody heres advice I switched to the 40, picked up a new RTF2 G22 today. So I am thinking about starting with the 3.5gr Titegroup and 180 bullet. Anybody have a better load for soft shooting mild competition use type stuff? I broke it in this afternoon with some hot factory HP's I had laying around (not the good ones though ). No I am just waiting till payday to get some dies, supplies and more brass. I have had many 40's in the past and like them for work and they are fun to shoot, just to $ when I wasnt reloading.