Surprised it wasn't front page, above the fold

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A6Gator

Discussion Starter · Apr 12, 2010

Stupidity knows no bounds. At least, he got his picture in the paper...removing all doubt.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2010/apr/11/collierville-man-held-gun-charges/

Collierville man held on gun charges

A Collierville man was arrested early today in a Beale Street parking garage on gun charges.

Memphis police, answering a call to the parking garage at 250 Beale, found Rusty G. Dungan, 30, passed out in a Ford Escort. According to a police report, officers could see a pistol on the suspects right side.

Officers reported that it took several attempts to wake the defendant. When he finally woke up, according to the report, officers could smell a strong odor of intoxicant on and about his person. He had bloodshot, watery eyes, slurred speech and had a hard time keeping his balance.

Dungan was charged with possession of a handgun while under the influence. He has a state permit, issued in 2007, to carry a handgun.

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Doc Holliday

· #2 · Apr 12, 2010 (Edited)

Not a problem if he was in Nevada. You can OC and drink up to .10 BAC there, and even if you go over that, there's no gun-related charges unless you start brandishing.

Here's a guy who had too much to drink, and maybe he was trying to do the right thing by sleeping it off instead of drinking and driving to get home, and he still gets busted.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

A6Gator

Discussion Starter · #3 · Apr 12, 2010 (Edited)

I was curious how they got his picture. It looks like either a DL or HCP pic. I don't usually see pics w/DUI, etc., but I guess they made this a special case.

RussP

· #4 · Apr 12, 2010

Considering the Commercial Appeal's anti-firearms/anti-carry record, that surprises me, too.

ked

· #5 · Apr 12, 2010

don't all ya'll outsiders be puttin down my local paypa!

let me do it. they suck, big time.

ked:wavey:

vafish

· #6 · Apr 12, 2010

A6Gator said:
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Dungan was charged with possession of a handgun while under the influence. He HAD a state permit, issued in 2007, to carry a handgun.

Fixed it for them.

TBO

· #7 · Apr 12, 2010

Doc Holliday said:
Not a problem if he was in Nevada. You can OC and drink up to .10 BAC there, and even if you go over that, there's no gun-related charges unless you start brandishing.

Here's a guy who had too much to drink, and maybe he was trying to do the right thing by sleeping it off instead of drinking and driving to get home, and he still gets busted.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Doing the right thing would be not getting bombed while carrying a gun in public.

Doc Holliday

· #8 · Apr 14, 2010

TheeBadOne said:
Doing the right thing would be not getting bombed while carrying a gun in public.

I absolutely agree, no one should drink to the point of 'losing control' while armed.

But we don't know what really happened here. He may have stumbled back to his car to sleep it off, and pulled his handgun out of the glovebox for extra security. We just don't know.

TBO

· #9 · Apr 14, 2010

Doc Holliday said:
I absolutely agree, no one should drink to the point of 'losing control' while armed.

But we don't know what really happened here. He may have stumbled back to his car to sleep it off, and pulled his handgun out of the glovebox for extra security. We just don't know.

How about drinking to the point of being legally intoxicated?

Doc Holliday

· #10 · Apr 14, 2010

TheeBadOne said:
How about drinking to the point of being legally intoxicated?

Well, how about it? Everyones tolerance level is different. Just because the State sets a predetermined level for intoxication doesn't mean once someone hits that magic number, they are going to automatically experience a complete loss of control.

TBO

· #11 · Apr 14, 2010

Doc Holliday said:
Well, how about it? Everyones tolerance level is different. Just because the State sets a predetermined level for intoxication doesn't mean once someone hits that magic number, they are going to automatically experience a complete loss of control.

Why does the loss have to be "complete".

Is your only definition of drunk, "passed out cold"?

TBO

· #12 · Apr 16, 2010

Rusty Dungan

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Alaskapopo

· #13 · Apr 16, 2010 (Edited)

Doc Holliday said:
Not a problem if he was in Nevada. You can OC and drink up to .10 BAC there, and even if you go over that, there's no gun-related charges unless you start brandishing.

Here's a guy who had too much to drink, and maybe he was trying to do the right thing by sleeping it off instead of drinking and driving to get home, and he still gets busted.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Yea and Las Vegas crime rate is one of the highest in the nation. Alcohol and guns don't mix. That is some gun control I am for. If someone is too drunk to drive they are too drunk to handle a firearm. Fortunately in my state I can arrest someone for being intoxicated with a firearm. (defining intoxicated as .08) They guy should have left his guns at home when he made the grown up decision to go drinking. I have no pity for this clown.

Pat

happy seal

· #14 · Apr 18, 2010

Doc Holliday said:
Well, how about it? Everyones tolerance level is different. Just because the State sets a predetermined level for intoxication doesn't mean once someone hits that magic number, they are going to automatically experience a complete loss of control.

He was slurring speech and couldn't keep his balance = drunk!
should have left gun home or put down the whiskey.

silentpoet

· #15 · Apr 18, 2010

Should consumption of a certain amount of alcohol allow for the arrest of a person expressing their first amendment rights.

repoman1984

· #16 · Apr 18, 2010

Outside of someone slipping him a mickey he made an extremely poor decision he should have had the common sense to put the gun in the trunk before he had the first sip if he was planning on getting that trashed. A way of getting home was also something he should have thought about too.

TBO

· #17 · Apr 18, 2010

silentpoet said:
Should consumption of a certain amount of alcohol allow for the arrest of a person expressing their first amendment rights.

Get drunk
Get disorderly
Get arrested

:thumbsup:

RussP

· #18 · Apr 18, 2010

silentpoet said:
Should consumption of a certain amount of alcohol allow for the arrest of a person expressing their first amendment rights.

It isn't the consumption, it is the consequence of the consumption. After a few they forget their 5th Amendment right leading to incriminating speech not protected by the 1st.

wandrson

· #19 · Apr 18, 2010

TheeBadOne said:
Get drunk

Get disorderly

Get arrested

:thumbsup:

Ok, nothing wrong with those three steps in the process, but this guy wasn't being disorderly, he was asleep in his truck.

Should he have had a gun with him in his condition? No.

But without any further information I could easily imagine a situation why he would... Keeps gun in glove box. Goes out for a drink after work with friends/coworkers. Ends up drinking a lot more than he intended. When he gets back to his truck he decides to sleep it off in the truck.

How many can say they haven't drank more than they intended, at least when they were younger? From the information provided this guy wasn't driving while intoxicated, he wasn't brandishing the gun. It appears the only mistake was leaving the gun in plain sight.

TBO

· #20 · Apr 18, 2010

wandrson said:
Ok, nothing wrong with those three steps in the process, but this guy wasn't being disorderly, he was asleep in his truck.

Should he have had a gun with him in his condition? No.

But without any further information I could easily imagine a situation why he would... Keeps gun in glove box. Goes out for a drink after work with friends/coworkers. Ends up drinking a lot more than he intended. When he gets back to his truck he decides to sleep it off in the truck.

How many can say they haven't drank more than they intended, at least when they were younger? From the information provided this guy wasn't driving while intoxicated, he wasn't brandishing the gun. It appears the only mistake was leaving the gun in plain sight.

STOP

Your quote of my text. What (and who) was it in response to?

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