Suggest some good "starter" optics for a Three Gun AR

I think that optic will serve your purpose, but in general, the rule is buy once, cry once. B/c you will eventually sell that to fund what you REALLY wanted. Eye relief etc is a major factor, so you way want to look through one to see if you can acquire the target quickly.

 

I've got the Burris Fullfield TAC30 on an AR. Just the scope, no red dot. Excellent scope, and I read many good reviews on it before I purchased it. In the reviews, many used these for 3Gun.

 

Trijicon Accuppoint 1-4 with a GOOD quality mount would be my suggestion

 

Vortex PST 1-4X

So far it is the best budget optic I've seen.


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I would have to agree with you on that one. It's whats on my 3 gun set up. Noveske 18'' competition set up.

 

Gladorn, I'm in the same boat. I have a Burris MTAC that I really like and need a new scope for a new rifle. I think most people like the knob for illumination over the TAC30 but both scopes are completely serviceable.

There is a new reticle available for the MTAC and if it didn't have BDC then I'd probably have already ordered one. I may end up with a 1-5 XTR but I doubt I'll feel like the extra money was well spent.

 

If you don ‘t want to end up again in another frustration, do yourself a favor and buy some quality glass.

For 3 gun you will need these features:

- True 1x magnification at the lower end. Most if not all lower budget and even mid range scopes actually start at 1.4 which will prevent you from aiming with both eyes wide open.

- A huge eye box.

- Large field of view.

- Daylight visible illuminated reticle (many are not bright enough in sunlight).

- If possible on the lighter side.

I suggest getting at least a Vortex Razor HD Gen II Riflescope 1-6x24. This scope has a pretty good eye box and FOV. I’d skip the red dot if you go with this or better.

PS: stay away from the scope junk on gun shows, it’s all the same rebranded crap made in China.

 

+1 for the Vortex. I decided on the Spitfire II for my M4 and while it isn't inexpensive ($350) it's a quality optic that I like and it doesn't break the bank.

 

The Razor is sweet, but I think $1500 is a bit much for his stated occasional use.

 

Does the lack of parallax adjustment bother folks ? It's been no issue for me. Just curious.

 

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Nope. When you look in your scope and move your eye position (i.e., move your head around), you will notice the scope reticle appears to move with your eye position unless you happen to be looking at the target at the distance that coincides with the parallax setting. Some scopes have a fixed parallax setting - e.g., 100 yds. Other scopes have an adjustable parallax setting. So think of adjustable parallax as having the effect of flattening the reticle against the image. Say you have a target at 150 yds with your parallax set to 100 yds...you move your head and you see the reticle appears to move with your eye. But if you adjust the parallax setting to 150 yds, your head/eye movement has no effect of the reticle - i.e., the crosshairs don't move with your eye position.

It's not kiss of death in accuracy to have a fixed parallax setting. It just means that it becomes more important to center the eye position and keep your position fixed when straying from whatever the parallax setting is for that particular scope.

I noticed that most of the optics mentioned in this thread have a fixed parallax setting. Just curious whether that has bothered folks when competing. Obviously you're not going to want to make parallax adjustments on the fly while competing, but you might want to make an adjustment if you know your more distant targets are significantly different than your current parallax setting. Or you can be like me and just seemingly ignore it. Just didn't know what others have found.

 

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Parallax is not going to be a big issue at the relatively short ranges of a 3 Gun match either. If your fundamentals are solid, it won't be an issue at all except in some of the weirdest positions, if necessary. But then we go back to the relatively short range, and once again, not a big issue. I would recommend the Vortex and Athlon optics. Here is the Athlon Argos BTR 1-4x24 FFP mil/mil on my 6.5 Grendel. Give it a look if you can find one locally.