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  1. Gladorn

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    I am buying my first scope that will be dedicated to my three gun AR. I'm trying to keep the costs low as I don't go out of my immediate area for three gun. (It's fun, but it's not an obsession.)

    Most shooters use either a 1-4 or a 2-7 optic. I'm currently considering the following two which I will link below. But I am open to suggestions.


    Nikon ProStaff 2-7 x 32 Black Matte Riflescope

    This is the one that is used by most of my friends. Their selling point is cost.

    Vortex Optics Crossfire II 2-7x32 Rifle Scope, Dead-Hold BDC Reticle

    This is priced similarly to the Nikon Prostaff and I like the BDC recticle.


    So what are your thougths on these optics? Also, what mounts would you suggest for these? I've found mounts priced from $15 all the way up to $250 and I'm not too sure what the difference is on them.
     
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    NeverMore1701 Fear no Evil Platinum Member

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    I'd go with a 1-4 or 1-6x for 3 gun. Or just about anything.
     
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    Trujicon ACOG 4x would be great but they are pricey. Nikkon P223 is a good choice. Ca t go wro g with Vortex either.
     
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    trijicon 1-4 accupower/accupoint

    vortex strike eagle 1-6
     
  5. BL_1

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    The ACOG is a decent combat optic for a certain role but, it's definitely not optimal for the 3-gun role. Something variable powered like a 1-4 or 1-6 would be best. I've been using the MK6 1-6 and really like it.
     
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    VORTEX Strike Eagle 1-6x24. Price is right about $330. A good mount will set you back anywhere from $85-$225 depending on whether or not you want quick disconnect. Aero Precision makes some really nice lightweight mounts that are not QD. American Defense 30mm RECON is a very nice QD mount. I use these on a few of my ARs. Here is one in particular with a VORTEX Strike Eagle in a VORTEX American Defense 30mm RECON-X mount.

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    Mounts.

    http://www.primaryarms.com/Brand+Aero-Precision/MCategories+Scope-Mounts

    http://www.primaryarms.com/Brand+American-Defense/MCategories+Scope-Mounts

    http://www.larue.com/larue-tactical-spr-m4-scope-mount-qd-lt-104

    http://www.larue.com/larue-tactical-spr-e-lt-139
     
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    I use a 1.5 x 6 Zeiss. Reticle is very important.
     
  8. ottomatic

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    I don't think that that (excellent) optic is in OP's pricepoint.
     
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    I agree.
     
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    vortex just released the gen 2 viper pst in 1-6x. Going to be a more affordable alternative to the Razor HD 1-6.
     
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    You are looking at about $700 for the VORTEX Viper PST 1-6x24. The Viper PST scopes are really nice. I have the VIPER PST 1-4x24 TMCQ MOA scope (w/ tactical turrets) on one of my builds and I love it. The Viper PST 1-6x24 is a good option of it is within your budget, otherwise the Strike Eagle 1-6x24 would be better.
     
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    The new PST 1-6 MSRP is $999, same as the 2.5-10x32 FFP PST. Vortex is smoking crack IMO to MSRP a 1-6 in the same class as a PST FFP scope with a larger mag range. It should street at most for $600.

    It looks like the ops budget is on the lower end price wise. For well under $300 you can get the 1-6 from Primary Arms with the ACSS reticle. The PA 1-6 doesn't have as good of a warrenty as the Strike Eagle but it has a better reticle and is made in the same factory.

    For a mount I'd get one from Aero Precison or Warne. The Aero is around $90, the Warne is around $110.
     
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    Fixed low power scopes suck compared to a variable with 1x.
     
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    You can get them for around $700 for the Viper PST 1-6x24 like I said.

    http://www.opticsplanet.com/vortex-...dium=PLA&utm_term=&utm_campaign=1100003159972
     
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    I am firmly in the Vortex camp. To me their no-problem warranty is worth the extra cost. While I agree that the PST II 1-6 is priced too high for the OPs budget, the Strike Eagle is under 3 bills at Optics Planet.
    Whether the PST II is over priced is hard to say. This is a scope that is at the entry portion of the premium market.
     
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    and you can try using the 10-12% off coupons they email me all the time

    Also, I have a 1-4 PST and my brother runs a 1-6 Razor HD. His optic is AMAZING, but mine is really good. He sold his Razor just last month, to pre-order two PST's.
     
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    Oh wow, it costs more than my rifle... How many of my own teeth do I need to pull before the GT family will buy me one of those.

    :outtahere:
     
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    Aero Precision is running a sale on their mounts, but it is for today only!

    (Yeah, six hours left in this sale.)

    On that note, I don't know if I should get a standard, extended (1" forward), or SPR (2" forward) mount.

    When it comes down to it, it adds to the eye relief. Even though I can find the eye relief online, I still don't know which mount would be best for me.

    Half tempted to pick up the Extended/1" because I can move it forward or backward as needed.
     
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    As others have implied, I'd go with a 1x - 4-6x.

    As opposed to a few years ago, there a several reasonably priced, good, 1-6x options. A 1x is almost** as quick as a Aimpoint PRO or EOtech. Shooting both eyes open, with quick alignment, and target transitions isn't going to be as easy with a 2x.

    **RDS's and holographics don't have eye relief and are very forgiving on eye/sight alignment. A scope isn't going to be as forgiving; but at 1x, alignment can be very quick with some practice.