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Stupid stuff heard at the range

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by njl, Sep 3, 2017.

  1. njl

    njl Crusty Member

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    At a match, two older guys were talking to a younger guy about reloading (they do, I gather he didn't yet). I was standing just in ear-shot, and thought I heard one of them say "you need a heavy crimp to ensure complete powder combustion". I moved a little closer, and asked if they were talking about roll crimp for revolvers. He said no, even for auto-pistols, "you need a heavy crimp to hold the bullet in place to maximize pressure so you get complete powder burn." I figured it wasn't worth arguing, explaining that heavier crimp will actually reduce neck tension, not to mention the negatives that can result from damaging the bullet (plating/coating), or that these rounds headspace on the case mouth, and a heavy crimp can screw that up, and just walked away from the stupid.
     
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    Commit his face to memory. Avoid his squad or relay. :couch:
     

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    Shooting is funny like that. Lots of gun people take their mediocrity very seriously.
     
  4. pittpa

    pittpa What did I come in here for?

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    Sometimes the internet IS better.
     
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    ".45 (as in ACP) is inherently inaccurate."
     
  6. njl

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    If you follow the wrong reloading advice.
     
  7. Danny Reid

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    That probably got started by guys in the service who shot old 1911s which probably rattled more than a diamondback.
     
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    There is more misunderstanding about the so called "crimp" in reloading, than any other single subject. We have semi regulars on this very forum who have decades of reloading, who will swear up and down about the virtues of a "heavy" crimp.

    One would think with the internet now pretty much ubiquitous throughout the land, myths would have been wiped out, but the contrary seems to be the case. Must be a human nature thing.
     
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  9. pittpa

    pittpa What did I come in here for?

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    Me: Watch your muzzle"
    New member who already had extensive safety orientation: "It's not loaded."
    Me: "Wrong answer."
    New member: "Uhhhh, oh."
     
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    So many shooters & reloaders just dont know what they dont know. I strive to learn something new all the time. It avoids that awkward stupid deer in the headlights look.:okie:
     
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    It says 115 gr on the box because it has 115 grains of black powder...

    This was from an instructor who got pretty angry when I tried to correct her.
     
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    boost1 Whooshhhhh

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    That Benelli shot guns were gas operated......
     
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    "Glock brass..". Have heard this many times. That and; "Glock 9mm brass that some Glock
    shooter is loading hot, to make Major power factor..bla bla etc..". Yawn, sigh, walk away.
     
  14. MO Fugga

    MO Fugga Malt Liqra® Lifetime Member

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    That's jacked up....
     
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    Fred, you are a wealth of information that you freely share, but you have never said anything truer
     
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    Even when I'm not trying anything new in reloading, I'll browse this forum and other reloading-specific forums for thread titles about issues I'm not familiar with. Although there is much misinformation on the internet, forums like this are generally pretty good, IMO, because the people with the most experience and a passion for the topic will set the record straight. The info is out there, if people are willing to read through it and have a little discernment. I'm sure the older reloaders think us youngins have it pretty easy to have experts from around the world at our fingertips. It certainly is a great time to be alive!
     
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    +1
     
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    "I know it's not a squib, I look in every case."

    More that a few guys that have had to borrow my squib rod to beat a bullet out of their barrel....
     
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    I would have told here what a moron she was & walked out of that class, right after she refunded my $$$.
     
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    I have a lot of patience with lack of knowledge.

    I have no patience with Bullheaded stupid.