Statues being toppled in Portsmouth, VA by leftist

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  1. B C

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    They have toppled 2 statues in Richmond in the past 6 days . One Confederate and the other Columbus . There is a lawsuit now stopping Northam from removing the Robert E Lee statue .

    I had to edit my post after hearing the morning news , they toppled another statue in Richmond last night , Jefferson Davis .

    Sounds like to me a backdoor way of removing the statues .
     
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    Without a doubt. The gov may not be able to come up with the authority/votes/political capital to remove the existing statues, but once they are down it is very, very easy to say "we're not putting up a monument to a confederate" (or "traitor" as the Washington Post now calls them daily). In fact, there's almost no way they could repair or replace them - the communists know that every statue they pull down is gone for good and an easy win for them.

    Christopher Columbus and Thomas Jefferson statutes may be repair and replaced, but no confederates.
     
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    I still don't understand why the local governments are allowing this vandalism. It just makes no sense to me.
     
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    It is exactly what the government wants in our city and state and they don’t get all the blame .
     
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    They’ve been given their marching orders.

    And it doesn’t taste badly to the palate because, as I’ve been saying, they are hardcore Leftists and Communists.

    As are the voters who put these creatures in office.

    But when this is discussed all I here is “conspiracy!”, “you cannot prove it!”, “who wrote that? “Sounds like Hitler!” and other nonsense.

    So be it.


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    They're not, at least in Portsmouth. City government is inept. It's a poor community.

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    Iirc, that statue is on Effingham Street, about midway between I-264 and the Naval Hospital. The area is known for violent crimes. Service members stationed in the area are concerned for their safety when heading to work. It's been an area of concern for decades. Democrat controlled cesspool where people of color are oppressed and kept down. I live in nearby Chesapeake. My son plays baseball for a travel league in Portsmouth, only 5 minutes away from where this happened.

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    Attempting to "sanitize" history is very dangerous. If successful there would be no historical evidence of Mao, Stalin, Lenin, NAZI's. We should "see" and "remember" what happened without too much exaggeration.

    An example of the price white America paid for black slavery.

    "The Battle of Gettysburg left approximately 7,000 corpses in the fields around the town. Family members had to come to the battlefield to find their loved ones in the carnage. (Library of Congress)

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    This is an area where schools received 4th grade text books for a subject called Virginia Studies that mentioned blacks owned slaves too. Parents went full retard and demanded the books be amended. Until revised text books were available from the publisher the district used white stickers to cover the text so kids didn't read it. Due to COVID-19 shutting down schools and moving learning to online and at home, I had the fortunate opportunity to set the record straight with my son in 4th grade. Not only is he aware that blacks owned blacks, but also that whites owned whites. Slavery was colorblind.

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    My response is that a lot people in this forum don't understand that such has been the situation in a number of parts of this country for a long time. It didn't start with BLM or Antifac. 50 years, locals just traveling on the interstate that had a portion in East St. Louis, knew not to ever stop for any reason and to carry a gun. Heck, when I was in high school as a driver, I was told by the boss that if we ever had an accident in one section of my town, not to stop and just drive to the nearest police station.

    Another example. in the 1900s, two British women took it upon themselves to travel to museums in Europe and knock off the penises of the statuary. So, this is the way life is.

    A loser white woman in eastern Washington State reinvents herself as a Negro and gets into legal problems over taking money. Or two notorious Negro women are the totality of the BLM "movement" that shuts down a speech by Mr. Biden. And, people get bent out of shape. Three people out of 330,000,000 Americans.
     
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    I don't think anyone is trying to erase the history of the people that freed the slaves, just the treasonous side.

    I mean, there's no Hitler statues in Germany, and they are fully able to remember & teach the history of the Nazis.
     
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    However, the history of the Nazis and the Holocaust is being taught. Slavery is not. One of my neighbors is a 4th grade teacher in Portsmouth, VA. She's white. In 4th grade the kids are taught "Virginia Studies". I know the content because my son went through 4th grade this year. Last week I was talking to her about what I saw in the course material. She said the schools require a black teacher to teach the portion about slavery because whenever a white person teaches the material the white teacher is accused of being racist by the parents of black students. And, the text books have been bleached, removing any mention of black slave owners.

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    So it's being taught, it's just not your version.. ?
    What is so important in this context about teaching that there were black slave owners? It certainly doesn't erase the pure evil of the system.
     
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    What's being taught isn't accurate. It's not a matter of my version. It's a matter of fact and truth. Whites weren't the only people to have slaves, and blacks weren't the only people enslaved. The whole truth needs to be taught, not just that whites owned black slaves. The whole context of the "pure evil" should be taught. Not just bits and pieces of it.

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    May want to upgrade your news feed. BTW, didn't mention Hitler, I was referring to Nationalist Socialist German Workers Party (NSDAP).

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...ment-to-black-civil-war-soldiers-boston-54th/
     
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    Yes, non-whites owned slaves and non-blacks were enslaved. Both were exceptions to the rule with regards to slavery in the US and the level of detail and understanding needed to discuss such topics accurately is beyond the scope of discussion relevant to a 4th grade education. The ownership of black slaves by white owners is what has had major ramifications on our country from its founding until today and is what should be focused on in elementary school classrooms when teaching American History.
     
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    I disagree. 4th graders are capable of understanding a lot more than they're given credit for. Teaching that only whites owned slaves and only blacks were slaves leads us to the point in society we're currently in. An honest conversation cannot be had because of the misconception that has lead to a perceived and unrealistic victimhood. The truth must be taught so we can have a truthful conversation. 4th graders, and above, should be taught that blacks and whites were both slaves and slave owners.

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