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States Rebel Over Deportations.

Discussion in 'Cop Talk' started by ronduke, May 22, 2011.

  1. ronduke

    ronduke

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    "Isaura Garcia of Los Angeles said she dialed 911 to report domestic abuse by her partner in February. When police entered her fingerprints in the database linked to ICE, the system determined she was in the U.S. illegally. Though she had no criminal record, she landed in deportation proceedings."

    This doesn't make any sense. I have never fingerprinted a witness or an R/P. I am guessing that the R/P was arrested for some type of offense, and then those prints were submitted.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704681904576321404203166580.html?mod=WSJ_WSJ_US_News_3
     
  2. txleapd

    txleapd Hook 'Em Up

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    If she had a print hit that "determined she was in the U.S. illegally" that can only mean she was previously deported, and was already in the ICE system.

    It's not common to run victims and witnesses, but it's not unheard of either. Something obviously tipped the cops off that they needed to check her out.
     
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  3. Dragoon44

    Dragoon44 Unfair Facist Lifetime Member

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    So whats the beef? she goes back to mexico, he partner stays here. domestic violence problem solved!
     
  4. GackMan

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    I will run victims through NCIC... As much for officer safety as to just have their info in my call so I can look it up later. But never took anyone's fingerprints.

    Did the NCIC hit say "previously deported felon?" so the cops started to ask questions?
     
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  5. Dragoon44

    Dragoon44 Unfair Facist Lifetime Member

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    " In God we trust",

    everyone else we check for warrants.

    :supergrin:
     
  6. blueiron

    blueiron

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    The poor victim isn't so innocent, eh?

    There are the true victims and there are those who didn't get their way while gaming the system.
     
  7. DustyJacket

    DustyJacket Directiv 10-289

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    Back in the '80s I ran into a number of illegals when on duty.

    In EVERY case Immigration refused to take them.

    I thought if you were in this country illegally, then you were already committing a crime. Now, you just stay hidden long enough and you get citizenship.

    I wonder what other country treats illegal immigrants so well?

    Not Iran, N. Korea, China, Mexico, ...........
     
  8. rudeboy3

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    What they failed to mention was that "victim" was ARRESTED on suspicion of domestic violence and was booked as I understand it.
     
  9. GackMan

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    Well then... I suppose that's a pretty good reason to run someone's prints through AFIS. :whistling:
     
  10. Straight Pipe

    Straight Pipe

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    Be quiet. You're liable to get the GNG crownd's attention and the next thing you know they'll be whining about how her constitutional rights were violated and how all cops suck.
     
  11. trdvet

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    Yep

    Had a lady refuse to write a statement and walked out the station once I told her I would have to talk to the other party (husband) about the domestic abuse she was claiming 2 days after the fact.
     
  12. Mister_Beefy

    Mister_Beefy Legal & Proper

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    you're learning!



    HAHA posted in coptalk, the holy of holies.

    check that off my list... ok. now I never have to come back, thank God.
     
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  13. Newcop761

    Newcop761 CLM

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    When Secure Communities was rolled out ICE said that the response would prioritize threats to national security and public safety. NOWHERE did anyone say that low-priority illegal aliens that were encountered through the use of this program would be ignored or get a free-pass.

    For the states and agencies that are all upset about it there's a real simple solution: Don't submit fingerprints to IAFIS. Problem solved.

    The moment ICE puts a detainer on most of these crooks, the local DA "No Complaints" the case and they get turned over to ICE (without a conviction necessary to guarantee deportation) which means they tie up resources going to a hearing before an Immigration Judge even if the arrest that brought them to ICE's attention is a serious felony.

    How is it that this ******-bag decide which laws he will follow?
    Hennessy has now chosen ignore his own state's law as well as federal law.

    If people really knew what was going on...