State Dept Ignored President Trump’s Orders and Allowed Americans with Coronavirus to Fly Back to US

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  1. Jan R Whitaker

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    needs to be transferred to China.
     
  2. professor kv

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    He needs to be recalled, disciplinary action taken, and his employment terminated.

    This needs to be done ASAP, so people will get the message. This goes way beyond insubordination. We're talking about people's lives and spreading contagion.

    Hopefully, nobody gets sick or dies from his actions.
     

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    No president is going to keep me out of my own country.
     
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    What if he's not your President?
     
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    Fire him, and bankrupt with a legal bill so his government pension gets obliterated with legal fees...
     
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    Um, actually he will if the situation arises that warrants it. Not sure how you would go about breaking out of a quarantine in another country or boarding an airliner if you were prohibited from doing so.

    Blustering aside, it was not wise for the State Department underling to endanger the entire passenger list on that plane by insisting that those who were obviously sick board the plane and be "quarantined" behind some plastic sheeting.

    People on the plane WILL be getting sick. People who were NOT going to get sick before this event, and some WILL die.

    Nice.
     
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    Promote him, Chief Officer of Civilian Affairs, Wuhan China.
     
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    They were operational orders, not overarching travel orders.

    The rules of the mission were to only bring back those that tested negative prior to boarding the plane.
     
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    I can’t get past his job title: Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary

    How many levels of “assistant” can a bureaucrat achieve?


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  11. R.B. Riddick

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    Link? I have not found ANYTHING like that.
     
  12. Hartford

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    That's how it's been reported in multiple news articles. CDC and white house rules for the flight were that no positive cases were to be allowed on the plane.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ns-infected-coronavirus-boarded-plane-US.html

    This article makes it sound like a trump official went against the CDC's advice, but I'd be willing to bet it was a trump official like Vindman.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...a-b119-4faabac6674f_story.html?outputType=amp

    There are other articles. Look around.
     
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    Looking forward to see Democrats arguing that leaving infected people to enter the US was a brave act of resistance.
     
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  16. R.B. Riddick

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    It does not appear that ANYTHING official was provided by The President on what to do with positive American citizens because he was not giving the chance.

    However, it does suggest poor communication between the State Dept and the President.

    From your link:

    “Trump had been told last Saturday that only evacuees who didn't have symptoms or positive test results would be allowed on State Department charter planes back to the US from Japan, according to the Washington Post.

    Officials on the ground realized late in the evacuation process, on the airport tarmac in Tokyo, that 14 of the roughly 350 evacuees had tested positive for the virus.

    State Department underlings made the quick decision to allow the infected citizens onto the flights, but separated from the other passengers within portable bio-containment units that were already on the planes, in case passengers showed symptoms during the flight.

    Some members of the coronavirus task force back in Washington were not told in advance that the infected people would be placed on the plane, and learned about it only after the plane was on its way back to the U.S.

    One senior White House official said not informing Trump of the decision ahead of time was a 'big operational mistake.'

    Trump has since expressed in outrage on phone calls with top White House officials, saying he should have been told, that it should have been his decision — and that he did not agree with the decision that was made.”
     
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    Ok, honest question.

    Do you think every order and note from trump is going to also be publically available on google ?

    It seems likely there were other orders about different places and situations involving the coronavirus with no real need to post publically.
     
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    Was wondering where you got your inspiration...