St. Pete, FL police: We aren't coming to that...

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  1. LilCop2002

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  3. LilCop2002

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    And, folks, Pete is the first response to the thread... :highfive:
     
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    THIS is what is going to happen... take care of your own problems
    (ie: arm yourself) :couch: or:duel:
     
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    So let’s see them send, as the chief states, “its newly created Community Assistance Liaison division, which officials described as “a social service agency." They will respond to 911 calls pertaining to a number of issues, including drug overdoses, disorderly intoxications, suicide crises”

    to THIS drug overdose/disorderly intox


    View: https://youtu.be/8h4d2d7kRQs


    or suicide crisis


    View: https://youtu.be/oYp94vfdEco



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    Unfortunately, I think anyone familiar with the politics of St. Pete would not be surprised. I'm surprised it took them this long. I'm also curious to see how long it lasts.
     
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    If i lived there I would want my taxes redirected if Police ain't gonna do their jobs, things ain't violent until they are.
     
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    Community assistance to disorderly intoxications. LO ****ing L.
     
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  11. clancy

    clancy Oh, for a muse of fire

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    I was thinking more along the line of a thumb in the eye. All the way in, till he let go.
     
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    EDIT: I completely misread that - they are sending CAL Teams instead of police to exactly the things I said they should not send the police to, so my comment was exactly the opposite of what I meant.
    So, yeah, we'll enjoy that experiment.
    • Intoxicated individuals
    • Mental health crises
    • Drug overdose
    • Disorderly intoxication
    • Suicide crises
    That accounts for about half of all police officers killed and, especially the suicidal and mentals, accounts for at least half of police uses of deadly force.

    How many CAL team members get killed before they fire the police chief and start over?

    Or will they just blame the police when the CAL Team members get killed?
    Narcan is yet another thing that the police need to stop carrying and that would go right along with not responding to overdose calls.
     
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    Average age of officers is 25? That tells me two things. 1) They have a high turnover rate. 2) Given that the minimum age to be certified in Florida is 21 the average years of experience would be about 4. The children do not have proper supervision.
     
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    Eye gouging like other dirty little tricks has an effect for most but nothing like a Bilateral Vascular Restraint/Mata leão/Hadaka-jime/rear naked choke, whatever name you want to use. It doesn’t rely on pain compliance. It doesn’t matter how high, drunk or crazy the person is. There really is nothing else like it in the H2H world, a true fight stopper as long as you can get in position to apply it.

    Just realized this is in cop talk and understand chokes are forbidden in a lot of jurisdictions these days.:D
     
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    SINCE YOU LIBERAL POLITICIANS WANT DE-FUND POLICE, THERE IS NO MONEY, SO, NO "NARCAN" FOR YOU!!

    "No SOUP for you!"

    911. HOLD PLEASE! "SORRY THE NUMBER YOU HAVE DIALED HAS BEEN DE-FUNDED AND IS NO LONGER IN SERVICE!"

    LIVE PD THAT HAS BEEN DE-FUNDED and no longer available.

    In case of emergencies hang up and dial 733 or RED, FOR YOUR LOCAL OR FOREIGN SOCIALIST MARXIST SERVICE. State your emergency at the Beep.
     
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    That really jumped out at me too. Sounds like they can't retain any people for very long. Worked for a company like that once. Bunch of young employees in a supervisory capacity is a big red flag for me now.

    Detroit is similar, lots of guys hire on, get a few years on, then lateral. Great way to get a lot of experience, just be sure to transfer out before you're tainted by overexposure. That's more to do with the environment rather than supervision though.

    Randy
     
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    Bren, you're using common sense again.

    I don't disagree with your sentiment at all. I am curious how long those who demand this course of action go until they begin screaming that police are no good and dont come out to the events they dont want us at.
     
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    familyman357 I'd be more cynical, but my apathy prevents it.

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    The results are utterly predictable. That'll work great until the first time it doesn't and a CAL member gets hurt. Then they'll want the police to "stand by" on scene with them for every call. :rolleyes:
     
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    First thing that got my attention, too. That average age for a dept is ... weird. That problem falls at the feet of the city and the agency's management.

    As far as stopping using their police dept to respond to the problems stated? Fine. Cool, even. About time police were no longer were sent to handle non-police problems. Society has been lazy since the 60's and used police to respond to too many non-police issues and "general complaints" about whatever.

    Why not see how society likes dealing with its own self-induced problems, taking responsibility for its own behavioral issues for a change?

    Make sure to create a commission to investigate all of the incidents in which the CAL staff are unable to resolve the problem to the satisfaction of the citizens, or someone is offended, and create the appropriate disciplinary system to mete out discipline to the CAL staff when situations aren't done "properly". Make sure the city has the funds to pay out against the claims against the new city agency when incidents result in claims and lawsuits.
     
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    Oh yeah, that will work, what could possibly go wrong? :nutcheck:
     
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