Spook List?

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  1. GreyEclipse

    GreyEclipse TheGreyEclipse

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    Has anyone else heard about this? What is it?

    A chick that I know just told me about it and I don't believe her.
    I think she watches too much news, lol.
     
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    What did she tell you this list contained? Heard lots of different things called a spook.
     

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    A list of 300 words.

    If you typed one of these words then you would be added to a government list of potential threats. I call bull, I seriously think shes full of it.
    It sounds so dumb that it might be true though, lol.

    Words, like bomb and nuke. I guess all the MW2 nerds are going to be questioned fairly soon. :dunno: I'm around this type of madness lately.
    The family that I live with currently all think there is some huge government conspiracy going on and we are being controlled. I think Im the only sane one.
     
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    There was a program and may still be (Echelon? maybe) that filtered international calls and such to detect such words. Do know that it put you on a list, but it probably got the recorded communication to be reviewed for context.

    I doubt the government is competent to carry out a huge conspiracies. Small ones maybe. Big ones with a few nuber of people, maybe. Huge ones, involving lots of people, no. Although some agencies would likely be better at it than others, military maybe. CIA, maybe. Congress, no way, they can not keep their mouths shut on vital security issues when it suits their political agenda.

    Are we being "controlled" by the government, sure we are. Although I think heavily influenced is more accurate. Many of the tax laws are meant to control/guide/incent desired behaviors. If that is not control what is? If they mean hypnotic or alien mind control, then, no.

    Sanity is really only proven in hindsight. Galileo was an insane heretic to his contemporaries. He is a genius to us.
     
  5. Bilbo Bagins

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    NAAHHHH.

    Like you said, you know how many people would use words like that on the internet, from 13 year old kids to 70 year old women.

    The NSA would "data mine" by doing a massive internet searches of what is on the internet but I think someone who it using the arabic words for nuke and bomb, while dropping Al-qaeda codewords, talking about Ricin or ferterlizer bombs are higher on the list then Joe American using one of the 300 words.

    The FBI also monitors terrorist leaning websites and forums. For example an agent would go onto "Al-Qaeda-Talk.com" and join as "haji123" and just shoot the bull with these scumbags until they give details of an upcoming attack.

    Really think about it, with all the Terrorism, child porn, and fraud going on the internet, do you really think the feds have the manpower to check the tens of thousands of people a day who drop one of those 300 words on the internet.
     
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    Completely agree with everything you said about the Goverment.
    Thanks for posting.
     
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    The Patriot Act...
     
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    :rofl:That's exactly what I'm thinking when she said Spook List.
    But she didn't bother explaining most of it because she said that she didn't want to talk to me anymore because of the fact that I was trying to find all 300 words so that I could recite them to her, lol.
    I just think I'm the only person in this house that thinks reasonably.
    Not that I was talking to someone in this house about a "spook list."
    It was on another site.
     
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    KS Trekker That Guy

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    I'll go make one of those hats real quick, brb!
     
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    JJS RIP Col.Moroney

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    I think I'm on all those lists
     

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    No they do not have the time or resources to word check every correspondence. This would be giving them too much credit.

    That is what computer algorithms are for. The idea is that most terrorists have "patterns" in credit purchasing, residential proximity, etc. So you do not need to look for any individual criteria, the Statistics crowd is working on this one.
    If I remember college stats very well, much data will be normalized, but a few data-points will stand out. 99% of a local population has updated auto registrations. while 1% do not. Of this 1%, 8 of these individuals purchased high amounts of diesel fuel. Of these 8 people, 2 also purchased over 300 lbs of fertilizer. Yeah, too complex for our boys upstairs, but don't think they are not trying.

    Information banks sell consumer buying habits to corporations. Add this to the various data kept about you by your creditors, your living locations, Toll-road habits, not to mention some cars having satellite packages, it ain't a far stretch.

    Nothing original here, as I did see this on 60 minutes...
     
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    I remember the Spook list being big news 10-15 years ago. It wasn't unusual to see newsgroup posts where the signature was a long list of supposedly provocative words, like bomb, terrorism, patriot etc.

    Hysteria aside, the theory was that the NSA was monitoring any electronic communications it could and using computers to analyse the data. If needed it could be passed to a human analyst. ETA: at the time the list was mostly posted by militia members who were convinced the gubmint was monitoring all their internet messages.

    Echelon, or whatver it's officially called, is still around. It's officialy denied by the US & UK, the two main participants, but not very convincingly. It's been named by other countries - Germany, Australia - who claim it's being used for industrial espionage, among other things. At one point there was even an EU investigation into the NSA passing things like research info to American companies so the USA could claim a new patent.

    There's a lot of stuff on the net, if you can stand the amount of kook paranoia it's mixed in with. Two of the more credible (if out of date) descriptions are:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/503224.stm
    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/06/11/us_expands_echelon_spying/

    I used UK sources because it's more widely mentioned here, since the UK is part of the EU and is constantly berated by other EU member nations for Echelon.
     
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    star trek? Are you sure you're not confusing the Spook list with the Spock list?
     
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    I think there is a list among other things, but how it will ultimately be used is a different story
     
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    Bomb, nuke, president, jihad, Al Qaida, Muslim, assassinate, terrorist, plot, military intelligence, SEMTEX, anthrax.

    That oughta do it. If I don't post tomorrow, you'll know. You're welcome. :)
     
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    We do not have the time or the man power to monitor everyone. But I have been assigned to watch and monitor YOU. Please carry on.
     
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