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Hey all,

does anyone know the difference between factory Speer Gold Dot and Double Tap Gold Dot as far as velocity f.p.s and ft. lbs. energy, if any??? thanks in advance:)
 

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Double Tap:
3.5" barrel - 1415fps
4.5" barrel - 1525fps

Speer:
4.0" barrel - 1350fps

Both have the same Gold Dot Bullet
 

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Years of Speer...Now carry the DT.;f
 

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;J ;C
 

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I just ordered some double tap, I got a box of the gold dot and a box of the FMJ to try it out. Should be here in a week, I also have speer gold dots and I just got a box of Federal 125 JHP. When I get the double tap I plan on doing a side by side test, I have access to a chronograph, and plan on hitting some phone books, water jugs, ply wood and anything else we can think of. I have not seen any yet but does Remington, Winchester, PMC or anyone else make 125's ( or anything else for that matter) for the 357 sig which is readily available? The more I have the more I shall test to see which performs "best". Yes a highly subjective term, I should say which one I am personally happiest and most confident with. Oh I will be shooting them out of a G33, I just ordered a 40 conversion barrel for it but I don't know how much use I will be getting out of it, probably just go shoot some and say, see how much "better" it is in 357 !! Or if I am feeling cheap and want to pick up some cheap ammo.
What are all your thoughts....
 

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Originally posted by T Earl
I have not seen any yet but does Remington, Winchester, PMC or anyone else make 125's ( or anything else for that matter) for the 357 sig which is readily available?
Assuming you mean FMJ also...

Winchester makes 357Sig in the white box, Remington makes it in the UMC yellow box, and PMC has some as well (and I believe all three make JHPs as well).
 

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**1.)Advanced Ammunition - 124g - CMJ
**2.)Advanced Ammunition - 124g - HP (Nosler)
3.)Alabama Ammo Inc. - 125g - JHP
4.)Alchemist Ammunition - 100g - CCF (frang)
**5.)Appalachian Ammunition Inc. - 125g - JHP (RL)
**6.)Atlanta Arms & Ammo - 124g - FP TCJ (RL)
7.)Atomic Ammunition - 147g - bonded HP
8.)Battle Born Ammunition - 124g - TMJ (RL)
9.)Big Bear Firepower - 125g - JFP
10.)Birds-n-Bullets - 124g - FMP (RL)
**11.)Bitterroot Valley Ammunition - 125g - JHP
12.)Bitterroot Valley Ammunition - 121g - JSP (RL)
13.)Bitterroot Valley Ammunition - 125g - FMJ (RL)
14.)Blue Ridge Cartridge - 124g - CPFP
15.)Buffalo Bore - 125g - FMJ
16.)Buffalo Bore - 125g - JHC
17.)Buffalo Bore - 125g - Barnes TAC-XP
**18.)CCI Speer Blazer - 125g - TMJ
19.)CCI Speer Lawman -125g - TMJ
20.)CCI Speer Lawman RHT - 100g - frangible
21.)CCI Speer Gold Dot - 125g - GDHP (23918 and 53918)
22.)CCI Speer LE Gold Dot - 125g - GDHP (54234)
23.)CCI Speer Lawmen - 125g - TMJCF (clean-fire)
24.)Clark Custom Cartridge Company -100g - incendiary
**25.)CNC Cartridge - 124g - FMJ
**26.)CNC Cartridge - 124g - JHP
**27.)CNC Cartridge - 102g golden sabre - JHP
**28.)Collins Cartridge Comp. - 125g - FMJ (RL)
29.)Colorado Custom Cartridge - 115g - FMJ
30.)Commonwealth Ammunition - 90g - frangible
31.)Concepts In Ammunition - Home Defense Load (RB)
32.)Concepts In Ammunition - Sport Load (RB)
33.)C.O.P (Copper only Projectiles) - 125g - SCHP
34.)Corbon - 115g - JHP
35.)Corbon - 125g - JHP
36.)Corbon DPX- 125g - DPX
37.)Corbon Pow'R Ball - 100gr - PB
**38.)Corbon BeeSafe - 91g - BS
39.)County Line High Grade - 147g - HP CMJ (RL)
40.)Crooked Creek Arms - 125g - JHP
41.)Crossfire Ammunition - BlackMax - 125g - SCHP
42.)Crossfire Ammunition - Tactical Grenade - 100g - FHP
**43.)Dead Zero Ammunition - 125g - XTP
44.)Defender Ammunition Company - 124g - FN
45.)Defender Ammunition Company - 124g - HP
46.)Defender Ammunition Company - 124g - PFN (RL)
47.)Defender Ammunition Company - 147g - FN (RL)
48.)Detroit Ammunition Co. - 147g - HP (subsonic)(RL)
49.)Detroit Bullet Works - 124g - HP(plated)(RL)
50.)DFA - 85g - Nylon ( lead free )
51.)DoubleTap - 125g - JHP
52.)DoubleTap - 125g - FMJ
53.)DoubleTap - 115g - JHP
54.)DoubleTap - 147g - JHP
55.)DoubleTap - 147g - FMJ
56.)DoubleTap - 80g - Barnes TAC-XP
57.)DoubleTap - 115g - Barnes TAC-XP
58.)DoubleTap - 115g - Nosler JHP
59.)DoubleTap - 180g - WFNGC hardcast
60.)Dynamic Research Technologies(DRT) - 85g - HP
61.)Eagle Brand Ammo - 125g - FMJFP (RL)
62.)Extreme Shock Air Freedom - 85gr - AF
63.)Extreme Shock Enhanced Penetration - 115g -frangible
**64.)Extreme Shock - 90g - FFJHP
65.)Extreme Shock - 124g - FFJHP
66.)Extreme Shock-90g-JPT-(lead free-frangible)
67.)Farrar Ballistics - 125g - TMJ (RL)
68.)Federal American Eagle - 125g - FMJ
69.)Federal - 125g - FMJ
70.)Federal - 125g - JHP
**71.)Federal - 150g - JHP
72.)Federal - 100g - CC BallistiClean
73.)Federal - 125g - HSTJHP
74.)Federal - 125g - THP (Tactical HP - bonded)
75.)Fiocchi - 124g - FMJ
76.)Fiocchi - 124g -XTPHP
77.)Fiocchi - 100g - SFN frangible
78.)Freedom Munitions - 125g - FP (RL)
79.)Freedom Munitions - 124g - XTP(RL)
80.)Freedom Munitions - 125g - FP
81.)Freedom Munitions - 124g - XTP
82.)G2 Research R.I.P. - 92g - RIP HP
83.)Garnet Ammunition Inc. - 125g - GDHP
84.)GBW Cartridge - Legend Pro - 125g - CHP
85.)Gene's Custom Ammo - 115g - Extreme JHP (RL)
86.)Gene's Custom Ammo - 147g JHP -XTP (RL)
87.)Gene's Custom Ammo - 124g - JFP (RL)
88.)Georgia Arms - 125g - FMJ (RL)
89.)Georgia Arms - 125g - JHP - SBU (RL)
90.)Georgia Arms - 125g - JHP - SBU (new)
91.)Glaser - Blue - 80g - Safety Slug
92.)Glaser - Silver - 80g - Safety Slug
93.)Good To Go Ammunition - 124g - FMJ
94.)Good To Go Ammunition - 125g - Barnes TAC-XP
95.)Great Lakes Ammunition - 121g - FN (RL)
96.)Grizzly Cartridge Company - 90g - JHP
97.)Grizzly Cartridge Company - 124g - JHP
98.)Grizzly Cartridge Company - 124g - FMJ-FP
99.)Grizzly Cartridge Company - 147g - JHP
100.)Grizzly Cartridge Company - 110g - Extreme (JHP)
101.)Highland Lakes Ammo - 125g - FNMJ
102.)Highland Lakes Ammo - 124g - XTPHP
103.)Highland Lakes Ammo - 124g - FNCP (RL)
104.)Hornady - 115g - FXT (critical defense)
105.)Hornady - 124g - JHP
106.)Hornady - 147g - JHP
107.)Hornady - 124g - TAP CQ
108.)Hornady - 147g - TAP CQ
109.)Hornady - 135g - FlexLock (critical duty)
110.)Hornady - 135g - FMJ
111.)Hunting Shack Munitions - 124g - PFP (plated flat point) (RL)
112.)Hunting Shack Munitions - 125g - TMJ (Speer)(RL)
113.)Hyperion Munitions - 124g - FP
**114.)Ike's Custom Ammunition - 124g - FP
**115.)Ike's Custom Ammunition - 147 - HP - XTP
116.)International Cartridge Corp. - 100g - HP - Duty - frang ( Green Elite duty)
117.)International Cartridge Corp - 100g - FP -Green Elite - (NT)-frangible
118.)J&J Ammunition - 124g - PHP (RL)
119.)J&J Ammunition - 124g - HBFP (RL)
120.)Jamison Brass and Ammunition - 125g - JHP
**121.)Lancer Custom - 125g - FMJ
**122.)Lancer Custom - 125g - XTP
**123.)Lancer Custom - 125g - JHP
124.)LAX Ammunition - 125g - RNFP
125.)LAX Ammunition - 125 - RNFP(RL)
126.)Lehigh Defense - 115g - Xtreme Penetrator
127.)Lehigh Defense - 90g - Extreme Defense
128.)Load-X - 124g - TMJ
129.)Load-X - 115g - JHP
130.)Load-X - 124g - JHP
**131.)M & M Reloads - 124g - CPFP (RL)
132)Magsafe Ammo, Inc. - 64g - Defender
133.)Magsafe Ammo, Inc - 45g - Swat
134.)Maine Ammo Company - 125g - FN
135.)Maine Cartridge Company - 147g - JHP (RL)
136.)Master-Ammo Company -125g - CGFP (RL)
137.)Master Cartridge - 125g - FMJ (RL)
138.)Mid-South Munitions - 125g - FMJ
139.)Mid-South Munitions - 125g - JHP
140.)Middle Creek Shooting Supply - 124g - FN (RL)
141.)Military Ballistics Industries - 124g - FMJ (RL)
142.)Minuteman Munitions - 124g - FPTMJ (RL)
143.)Miwall - 124g - TMJ (RL)
144.)Modern Munitions - 125g - FP (RL)
145.)National Police Ammunition - 100g - RH frang
146.)Northern Hills Precision Ammo - 124g - HBFP (RL)
147.)Northern Hills Precision Ammo - 147g - FP (RL)
148.)Parabellum Research - 125g - FMJ (value line)(RL)
149.)Parabellum Research - 125g - JHP (value line)(RL)
150.)Parabellum Research - 125g - FMJ (premium line)
151.)Parabellum Research - 125g - JHP (premium line)
152.) Parabellum Research - 147g - FMJ (value line)(RL)
153.) Parabellum Research - 147g - JHP (value line)(RL)
154.) Parabellum Research - 147g - FMJ (premium line)
155.) Parabellum Research - 147g - JHP (premium line)
156.) Parabellum Research - 100g - RHFP (value line) frangible
**157.) PMC - 124g - FMJ
**158.) PMC Starfire - 125g - JHP
**159.) Precision Ammunition - 125g - JHP
**160.) Precision Ammunition - 100g - copper matrix NTF (non-toxic frangible)
161.)Precision Cartridge Inc - 125g - FMJ (RL)
162.)Precision Cartridge Inc - 100g -RNFP - frangible (RL)
163.)Precision One Ammunition - 125g - FMJ
164.)Precision One Ammunition - 125g - HP/XTP
165.)Precision One Ammunition - 125g - JHP
166.)Prograde - 125g - Barnes TAC-XP
**167.)Pro-Load - 125g - JHP
168.)Prvi Partizan - 125g - FPJ
169.)RBCD - 60g - TFSP (total fragmenting soft point)
170.)RBCD - 50g - TDP - total fragmenting sp
171.)Reed's Ammo & Research - 90g - XTP
172.)Reed's Ammo & Research - 115g - XTP
173.)Reed's Ammo & Research - 124g - XTP
174.)Reed's Ammo & Research - 147g - XTP
175.)Reed's Ammo & research - 124g - Gold Sabre
176.)Remington - 125g - JHP
177.)Remington Gold Sabre - 125g - BJHP
178.)Remington Disintegrator - 104g - plated frangible
179.)Remington Disintegrator CTF - 100g - Frangible
180.)RWS - 100g - copper matrix NTF
181.) Sasquatch Ammunition - 124g - CPF
182.)SBR - 124g - FMJ SRVT (short range visible tracer)
183.)SBR - 124r - FMJ ERVT (extended range visible tracer)
184.)SBR - 147g - TCJ (Southern Ballistics Research)
185.)SBR - 130g - FMJ (TCJ) (Southern Ballistics Research)
186.)SBR (S. Ballistics Research) - 125g - HP
187.)Scorpion Reloads - 125g - Power Bond (FMJ)
188.)Sellier & Belliot - 140g - FMJ
189.)Sharp Shooter Ammunition - 125g - JHP (RL)
190.)Sig Sauer - V-Crown - 125g - JHP
191.)Sig Sauer - 125g - FMJ
**192.)Sillman Cartridge Company - 147g - FMJ
193.)Silver Bullet Munitions - 124g - FP (RL)
194.)Sperry Ballistics - 125g - FMJ (RL)
195.)Team Never Quit - 100g - HP frangible
196.)Tennessee Cartridge Company - 125g - FMJ (RL)
**197.)Texas Ammunition Co. - 124g - FMJFP (RL)
198.)TNT Munitions- 125g - FMJ - FP
199.)TNT Munitions - 147g - XTP
200.)Trident Ammunition - 124g - JHP (RL)
**201.)Triton - 115g - QSHP
**202.)Triton - 125g - JHP
**203.)Triton - 135g - QSHP
204.)Ultramax - 125g - FMJ (RL)
205.)UMC - 125g - FMJ
206.)UMC - 125g - JHP
207.)Underwood Ammunition - 124g - HP (RL)
208.)Underwood Ammunition - 125g - GDJHP
209.)Underwood Ammunition - 125g - BFMJ
210.)Underwood Ammunition - 125g - JHP (Sierra bullet)
211.)Underwood Ammunition - 147g - GDJHP
212.)Underwood Ammunition - 125g - TAC-XP
213.)Underwood Ammunition - 115g - JHP
214.)Underwood Ammunition- 124g - JHP - XTP
215)Underwood Ammunition - 115g - Xtreme Penetrator
216.)Underwood Ammunition - 90g - Xtreme Defender
217.)Underwood Ammunition - 124g - JHP (Nosler)
218.)Underwood Ammunition - 147g - JHP - XTP
219.)Underwood Ammunition - 65g - Xtreme Defender
220.)Ventura Tactical - 125g -TC (Truncated Cone)(RL)
221.)Vet-Made Ammunition - 124g - FMJ
222.)Village Tactical - 124g - CPFP (RL)
**223.)Wagner Acuswage - 125g - TMJ (RL)
224.)Washougal River Cartridge Company - 124g - TMJ (RL)
**225.)Webb's Brass Assets - 124g - FP
226.)Winchester - 125g - FMJ
227.)Winchester - 125g - JHP
228.)Winchester - WinClean - 125g - BEB (brass enclosed base)
229.)Winchester Ranger - 125g - SXT
230.)Winchester Ranger - 125g - BJHP
231.)Winchester Ranger - 100g - SF - frangible
**232.)Winchester Super Clean NT - 105g - JSP
233.)Wisconsin Cartridge Corp. - 125g - FMJ (RL)
234.)Wisconsin Cartridge Corp. - 125g - HP (RL)
235.)406 Ammunition - 125g - TMJ
236.)406 Ammunition - 125g - TAC-XP







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Right!! That whole section was cut and pasted from another ( much earlier ) thread... like I said, I seem to post this often.
 

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Looks like I'm gonna make the switch to Double Tap also.

Damn!! Wasn't too long ago I did my 200 round test with the Speers!!!;g :(

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:cool: I've been using the Speer Gold Dots & Ranger SXT's for CCW rounds, but the DT looks interesting. Does anyone have the address to thier Website? Thank you, in advance. Have fun & stay safe! ;f ;f
 
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