Spare mag, or ammo pouch, or speedloader, times

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  1. ithaca_deerslayer

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    I always carry a reload, just because. But how I carry it varies. I know you can do it faster, but here are my times for a reload. Time measured as the split from last shot before reload to first shot after reload. All times are from my normal concealment. Shooting done at 7 yards on a 8" circle :)

    Speedloader in pouch on belt:
    S&W 637 5 shot .38 = 5.7 sec.
    S&W 686 6 shot .38 = 5.9 sec.

    Moonclip in pouch on belt:
    S&W 640 5 shot .38 = 6.0 sec.

    Flat pouch of 5 rounds carried in front pants pocket under keys:
    S&W 640 5 shot .38 = 19.2 sec.

    Mag inside a pouch carried in front pants pocket under keys:
    Glock 43x = 6.3 sec.

    Mag without a pouch, carried in back pocket:
    Glock 43x = 4.8 sec.

    Mag holder on belt concealed:
    Glock 43x = 4.2 sec.

    Mag holder on belt unconcealed, just as a reference:
    Glock 43x = 3.2 sec.

    I hope you find these times interesting, as you think about how you want to carry your own reload. Poke fun at my results and discuss :)
     
  2. Dr_fast

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    I have wondered about this. I have a system where my spare mag is in my left front pocket being held in place by my wallet. In the last three years it’s never moved out of place as long as I check it when the wallet comes out or if I’m in the bathroom. Split times for me very from 3.2 to 4.0 . Not real consistent because I don’t practice enough. This system works really well for me however! And, as a chiropractor, I’ll tell you, it’s not good to carry your wallet in your back pocket anyway.
     

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    sciolist On the Border

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    Sub-second with carry gear from concealment is a fun goal.
     
  4. Geeorge

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    I don't carry any extra ammo on me just in my vehicles. I do carry a 6 shot 357 magnum and a 6 shot bug gun in my pocket, I like to have a choice in what caliber to use in a situtation
     
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    sciolist On the Border

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    Well... it's good for your chiropractor. That I can say from experience.
     
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    nikerret Mr. Awesome

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    How fast was second firearm?
     
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    I carry a spare mag in a horizontal pouch on my belt, left side. When I was working (plainclothes) I carried one made by Safariland for my Beretta 96. It rides well and very concealed and quick to reload. I took it apart and used it as a pattern to make several more since, for my 709 slim mag, my Sig P6 and for my Pico .380. It's the best choice for me and nearly unnoticed on a black belt. I did buy a Safariland for my G19.
    For times when I carry a revolver, I use Bianchi speed strips which are easier to carry than HKS or other speed loaders.

    Looks like this:

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  8. TheDreadnought

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    I have this or something pretty much identical. It’s a good but of gear.
     
  9. ithaca_deerslayer

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    I like that idea!

    I could see going with a 640 and 642.
     
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    I should try that!

    If on the right side, it'd be around 2 seconds is my guess.

    But on the left side, I dunno.
     
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    I like that idea.

    Wish I had some links to horizontal mag holders. I think a velcro nylon one, like a knife case, but horizontal, might be interesting.
     
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    I like these:

     
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    Extra mag(s) or access to a BUG sooner or later, WILL pay off. Check Clint Smith's daily carry on YouTube sometime. And he has some major surgeries and issues one person in 5,000 does not have to deal with.

    Even if it is just a benign situation as I had the night I dropped my Glock 30 on a tile floor and the base popped off.

    Even then, NOT the time to be playing "52 pick-up ". An extra mag is NEVER a bad idea.

    Gray_Rider
    Old Secessh

    I don't carry extra enough either, but have added a "car gun" and have a few other "little surprises"
    I wont mention on a public forum
     
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    Check NSR TACTICAL I am almost sure they have some.

    Gray_Rider
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    As long as you train a reliable, repeatable under stress method of reloading, carry it wherever.

    I seldom run a belt mag, except on route when wearing the duty belt. I do use a pocket mag holder in order to keep the magazine oriented in the proper position.

    An emergency reload (what most untrained people call a speed reload) as a civilian gunfight skill is fairly low on the priority list (as opposed to draw from concealment, which can never be fast enough).

    A modern, striker fired handgun of an adequate caliber and fighting size carries enough rounds, and the primary purpose of a reload becomes malfunction fixing (separate, but probably more important discussion) and proactive reloading, done behind cover or in preparation to shoot again once the initial threat has ceased.
     
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    Why would you use one caliber over the other?
     
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    Why cover the mag when it's in the same pocket with keys? Scratches?
     
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    speaking of wallets that cause back problems....

    here'a tip for all of you with fat wallets (fat not due to cash)

    take a photo of all of those rewards cards and non-financial cards. keep the photos on your phone instead. even the insurance cards (auto and health). yes, some backwards clinics might complain, but they will take the relevant info if they are too much of a dinosaur to receive an e-mail or text of the insurance card.

    Think about it, what is really necessary to lug around with you every day in a wallet? drivers license, credit cards, atm card, CCW or equivalent. And take pics of those as well in case your wallet is lost or stolen. Add to that your passport. and lighten the load.
     
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    Key wedged down in the mag or unseating a round, for starters.
     
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