I had two recent college grads go through FTO back in the day at my city PD. They both interned at the US PIS. When I asked why they didn't stay with them, they said that as screwed up as USPS was, the PIS was in similar condition.Anyone ever worked as a United States Postal Service Inspector, or considered it?
That is not true. A large number of the US Marshalls do prisoner transport.Ask him what he really wants to do. If it's to be an actual cop and do actual police work, the feds ain't it, even in their uniformed services. 99% of the time they just stand a post or are in an investigative role. If he wants to ride a desk, do investigative work, and carry a caseload then there's no doubt he should go federal. If he wants to do real police work like most people think about when they want to get into law enforcement, then he needs to go state/local.
Feds are the safer bet to make more money and stay out of crap, but they won't have the adrenaline dumps, which admittedly can get old after a few years and you're ready to move onto something else.
The exception to all of this is the US Marshals. They pretty much get to do all the cool sh*t with none of the caseload stuff. However, they are extremely difficult to get into and I've never known anyone without a military background to get selected.
I considered it, even started the process.Anyone ever worked as a United States Postal Service Inspector, or considered it?
Tell him to join the local militia instead.And I’m not real sure how to advise him. He’s 25 with a college degree, and is the GM of an indoor baseball facility(he played college ball).
My dad was a county sheriff for years, and I condsidered LE, but I wanted to coach, and part of me is proud of him for wanting to serve. The other part of me sees how you guys are under attack socially and politically and wants to warn him against it. What do you guys who are in the field now think?
Yes, as far as federal LE jobs, Border patrol is one of the easier ones to get and has a very high turnover.I have a friend who is a senior agent with U.S. Fish & Wildlife, which would be pretty cool and nobody ever thinks about them as an LE agency. He has even done undercover work for them (exotic animal trafficking or something). But it's so small your odds of getting in probably aren't great. Also, he recently had to move to New Jersey.
I imagine one of the easiest fed jobs to get is BOP, but I wouldn't do it.
BOP is Bureau of Prisons. I know several guys who work there.Yes, as far as federal LE jobs, Border patrol is one of the easier ones to get and has a very high turnover.
My understanding with jobs like Fish and Wildlife or LE with the forest service, you need to have a college degree in one of environmental disciplines that are offered at only very few colleges. It’s a career path kind of thing.
Not to put down a very hard job but most correction positions aren’t the same as most LE jobs. Different skill set. And yes, I have worked with corrections in joint operations and many NYPD officers are former corrections officers( local, state, and federal). I won’t recommend that job to anyone. Very tough with little reward other than a paycheck. Having said that, their intel people are top notch and their CERT teams are fantastic.BOP is Bureau of Prisons. I know several guys who work there.
I also know a few guys in the Border Patrol. I would do that job, but every Border Patrol officer I know is Mexican - you need to speak good Spanish.
A difference of experience then. All the Marshals I've met either had previous military or lateraled from another 1811 position. None were hired straight in and the several LEO specific forums/communities I frequent verify this.That is not true. A large number of the US Marshalls do prisoner transport.
Many get in without a military background. Military get preference in all federal hiring unless one is already in the federal employment system. Again, I have known former NYPD Captains and Lt’s to be TSA agents to circumvent the military preference for a few months and “poof” a few weeks/months later they are heads of federal departments etc.
It’s the same with the feds. Most of the feds I dealt with did not have prior service in the military. This might have changed.
I agree that direct hire is almost impossible since the military preference rule that applies to almost all federal jobs unless one is already in the federal system. USMS service is one where a lot of 1811 are trying to get to. BOP is one way in , so is BP, so is any federal job. But it is highly competitive.A difference of experience then. All the Marshals I've met either had previous military or lateraled from another 1811 position. None were hired straight in and the several LEO specific forums/communities I frequent verify this.
Additionally, the turnover is super low for them. Their hiring windows are like 4-5 years in between I believe, last I looked.
A good way to get in with them is military and BOP, lateral over to them and do their prisoner transports/courts for a few years and then maybe get on their fugitive unit.
I am lucky in that regard also. We have some vocal liberals at the local university, but local government is conservative. And in general the local population is supportive of LE regardless of their political views. A very family oriented community.I sure the hell wouldn’t do it in a big city nowadays.
I work in a smaller town that is pretty supportive of LE, that is in a fairly conservative county.
Money is less than I could make in a bigger place, but pretty much every other aspect is better, for me at least. I still have about 10 years left to go before retirement.
College Degree? Doctor, lawyer, banker, CPA, etc and etc. He should do that type of job.And I’m not real sure how to advise him. He’s 25 with a college degree, and is the GM of an indoor baseball facility(he played college ball) ...