Somerville NJ Rescue Squad Fined $182,000

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  1. WT

    WT Millennium Member

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    New Jersey has fined the Somerville first aid squad $182,000 for driving three unlicensed ambulances and not having the minimum number of EMTs on board.

    The investigation revealed that only one EMT was aboard the ambulance during calls; a violation of a state law that requires at least two to be on board during an emergency call. A separate driver category is not an EMT.

    Somerville Rescue is a VOLUNTEER SQUAD. It was founded in 1928 and handles over 4,300 calls per year. It is the only real heavy rescue squad in the county.

    They have 30 days to appeal.

    Apparently the squad is low on funds and lacks sufficient manpower to handle the call volume.

    https://www.ems1.com/ambulances-eme...using-unlicensed-ambulances-l8aWmKXsO59IDwwl/
     
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  2. glowrod

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    It's a problem for many areas, lack of sufficient and qualified staff.
     
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  3. misunderestimated

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    WELL THAT WILL TEACH THEM, On to the new Paid for with taxes full time first aid squad.
     
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  4. Deltic

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    I recall seeing on TV where the .gov closed down a lot of rural hospitals way back when for things like doors not being wide enough. That might have been a good thing if all the hospital had been rebuilt or replaced but a lot were just closed. I guess in the big scheme of things if the rural peasants have to drive for another hour or so to a hospital with doors wide enough for two gurneys to pass each way our wise and benevolent leaders can feel satisfied. :puking:
     
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  5. bubbatime

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    Some of that big govt tyranny will teach those rapscallions a lesson. If they were smart they would close up shop and tell everyone to pound sand. Let the govt hire all the folks that are already volunteering their time and pay them a ridiculous union wage instead. Progress!
     
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    Exactly why this is happening.



    Gotta justify those lifeflight helicopters one way or another.
     
  7. redrick

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    If they don’t have the sufficient manpower it sounds like they should shut the doors. It also sounds like they don’t have the community support with funds. Another reason to shut the doors.
     
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    Shutting down something imperfect and having nothing to replace it won't make things better.
     
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    So a small town in a county with a population of 331,000 people and over 300 square miles of area, and the best it can do is a rag tag amateur ambulance services?

    Time for a full time county paramedic service.


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    The county I live in has a population of about 9,200 people spread out over 363 square miles consisting of mostly woods, cotton, peanuts, and cattle. The county has a fully equipped and staffed EMS 24/7/365 with a budget expenditure of $800,000.
    The county is literally bankrupt. According to at least one consulting group, if the county government does everything right, which they certainly won't, it will require a minimum of 12 years to right the financial ship.
    It's difficult for me to believe a county in NJ can't afford at least the same level of service.
     
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    I bet liability insurance cuts deeply into that 800k right off the top.

     
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    An "anonymous tip"... right. Probably crap going on in the background of the emergency services there, and someone got pissed off enough to make an "anonymous tip".

    Great, let's levy a fine against a volunteer organization! That's the ticket!

    Did they go through some sort of warning phase, working with the ambulance service to let them figure things out? Again, sounds like backroom politics going on.

    I know some of the crap that goes on in my own town hall. I think most town residents would be rather surprised at what really happens in their town.

    Having said that.... I am amazed these days to hear of actual volunteer ambulance services in areas with any decent population. My little town went to paid ambulance crews decades ago due to the call volume. Surrounding towns are the same way, at a minimum they do a "paid per call" system to get enough staffing.

    Even with paid crews, mutual aid calls to and from surrounding towns is a regular occurrence with the ambulance service.
     
  13. WT

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    There has got to be some politics going on that is not public knowledge. Someone wants to start a new business at a significant expense. Who pays?
     
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    One Paramedic / EMT is better then 0
    Thank you Federal, State and Insurance companies for ruining the Volunteer Fire and Rescue operations of this country!
    Job well done and it’s now costing me more money for less?...go figure?
     
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    Rather dismissive aren't you? When I started one EMT and a FD first responder driving happened. You use what you have. I was dispatched solo. (As in I was driving the rig) to a person not breathing well. (Heat exhaustion) with primary crew headed as backup.
    I have left my POV on road and driven the Ambulance after I retired with multiple patients. I was there first, asked to drive so each patient had a EMT..
    I saw nothing saying they didn't do the best for the patients. I LOVED a 3 person crew. But I doubt any of us would have refused a call solo where they was not a better option.

    Thing is often there is help on scene. FD, PD, or EMS personal (maybe retired). I recall a drowning with two person crew. I drove to pool. i had 3 others helping me do CPR in back while a FD person drove. It was extreamly rare not to have help eager to jump in at scene.

    I have a relative in Montana who went on two calls on Thanksgiving. very low population area. Extreamly depressed economy. ..
     
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    Re-reading the article, it doesn't say if they were actually transporting patients with only the driver on board.

    I wouldn't be surprised at all if they had one driver getting the ambulance to the scene and meeting EMTs there.

    As I said in my earlier post, this stinks of political back stabbing, not someone looking out for the welfare of the community.
     
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    I was dispatched solo once. Thing is it was extreamly rare when you couldn't pick up personal at scene. Rarely we drafted firemen (maybe 3 X over 7 yrs) to drive. I have been on scene (in POV, headed to town, came upon accident, took one patient as that city rescue squad was not staffed to handle all injured.). After packaging, loading I was requested to drive. As 3 person crew needed in back.
    Deputy ALMOST got me. At hospital I asked if he happened to be headed South. ( As my POV parked by highway @14 miles S). He said he had a call there. Seems a semi while rubbernecking the tow truck recovering the van...hit this cream colored Escort and totaled it. But they couldn't find the driver.....
    My car was fine.
     
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