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Some opinions/help on my range practice

Discussion in 'GSSF' started by rpgman, Sep 4, 2011.

  1. rpgman

    rpgman SCGLOCK

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    today.

    shot from 21 and 31 feet.

    first 2 pics are from 21 and 31 feet using my G17
    3 17 round mags each target (51 shots per target)

    next 2 are from my G34 at the same distances.
    3 17 round mags each target (51 shots per target)

    next 2 are from my G27 at the same distances
    3 15 rounds mags each target (45 shots per target)

    hopefully, I upload them in the order I stated.
     
  2. Don At PC

    Don At PC Senior Member Millennium Member

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    It appears to me that your grip is off. You are pushing low and left. Need to square up the way the Gun fits your hand. Not bad but a more squared grip I think would vastly inprove your hits to all "A'S & B'S".

    That's my opinion.

    Don
     

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    rpgman SCGLOCK

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    Thanks Don I really do apprecate the input.
    I have only been doing this for a month, so once I get 21 and 31 feet down, I'll move to 40 and 50. But, that might take awhile.
    Greg
     
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    http://is-lan.com/challenge/images/Pistol-Correction.pdf print that out. Also, write your gun and range on the targets for easy ID.

    Also, we discussed framing the shot and jerking the trigger; seems like it may still be happening.
     
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  5. DannyR

    DannyR Moderator Millennium Member

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    You are experiencing a trigger control problem, and not an aiming/sight issue. Stick with one pistol for a while to maximize trigger time while eliminating variables.

    You may wish to use a "high thumbs" grip for a while, which somehow seems to eliminate push to the left--at least for me. It's not a pretty grip, with both thumbs sticking out high and to the left, but it works.
     
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    Thanks Danny and BamaTrooper.
    I appreciate the help.
    Greg
     
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    rpgman SCGLOCK

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    Danny, are u referring to this grip?

    Becuase, I've been using that grip.

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    • 1st problem. Your seeing the front sight move down and left, when you release the shot, but your not paying attention to it. Common problem. We learn to disregard 98% of the visual stimulus we see. It's just too much info to process, so we learn to disregard it. You must learn to see & register more info. In this instance, watching your front sight move, in relation to your rear sight & the target.
    • 2nd problem. The gun is moving, when you release the shot. Granted, it's always moving; but, your moving it off the intended point of impact. Your support hand & your strong hand grip must prevent this from happening; that is their purpose. You can press the trigger hard or soft, it makes no difference. If you have ever watched Mr. Rob Leatham shoot, he is a trigger slapper. Yet he is able to habitually hit his intended point of impact, as he keeps the weapon/sights on target throughout the process. Learn to keep the gun steady through the trigger press & your follow through.
    Best wishes & good shooting:supergrin:
     
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    ...Oh,...and GO COCKS!:supergrin:
     
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    Thanx,
    Greg
     
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    You mention shooting full 17-round magazines. Are you shooting all 17 rounds slow fire? If you are... I suggest you shoot less at one "time". The muscles can't maintain their strength for long periods of time. When I'm working on accuracy stuff, I often just load 5 rounds in a mag. Shoot those 5, load another mag, go again. The little breaks in between make a big difference.

    I do realize if you're at an indoor range your paying for your time... I buy 6 months membership so I'm not on the clock. At the same time, you do want your paid time to be as beneficial as possible. It's only when I start working on speed drills that I load more rounds in the mag, but when I'm doing slow speed stuff... too many is very difficult.
     
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    thanks Ron....appreciate the help.
    I'm shooting 17 round mags at about 17 to 19 seconds a mag.
    For the G27, it's 15 round mags at about 16 to 17 seconds a mag.
    Greg
     
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    Oh and GO Penn State Nittany Lions!!!
     
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    I have 'standardized' on 10 or actually 10+1 in every competition I shoot (unless of course, fewer are demanded, or the gun doesn't hold 10). Even though I could load more for steel and pins, I still load ten. As in GSSF, I (almost) never go to slidelock so the 11th remains between strings. The balance then remains the same and the round count I can expect remains the same.

    At any rate Greg, I would slow down at this stage of your practice. You are at approximately 1 round/sec + some extra for your 1st shot. In a GSSF match that would get you to +/- 110 seconds - faster than you need to be until your accuracy improves somewhat.
     
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    Bama is coming to Happy Valley:supergrin:

    What is the mood up there?
     
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    Thanks Kitty.....that's the reason I timed each mag, to see how fast I was shooting, and u r right, I'm STILL shoot TOO FAST.

    I need to take to SLOW at this point.
    The speed should come later.
    Greg
     
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    rpgman SCGLOCK

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    I'm from PHILLY, but live in Florence, SC.

    I'm sure the MOOD is good....

    Their ranked a little down from usual....25th in the USA poll, and they have room to improve.
    Greg
     
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    You got it Greg. Speed is worthless without accuracy, you have to be able to shoot accurately BEFORE you can shoot accurately fast.

    And that's where the dummy rounds and B-8 target come in....learning to shoot accurately.