Soft points or hollow points for rifle self defense?

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  1. TheDreadnought

    TheDreadnought

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    Yep.

    Seemed to be the most well reviewed so I bought a bunch back when.
     
  2. cheygriz

    cheygriz God Bless Trump

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    Hornady 55 grain TAP have worked well for LE in 5.56.
     
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    10or45 NRA Benefactor Life Member

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    I'd choose Hornady 75 grain TAP if I wanted overall performance.
     
  4. nikerret

    nikerret Mr. Awesome

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    Can you post a pic of the round and a part number? I’d like to see this. I can’t find anything online.
     
  5. Big Bird

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    55 gr fmj M193. It yaws and fragments in tissue and causes massive trauma. No need for expensive HP or soft point ammo in an AR.
     
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    It is often recommended to avoid soft point bullets in semi-auto's.
    The point can more easily deform when feeding, compared to a jacketed hollow point, or sometimes the soft point can break off and jam between the cartridge and the barrel chamber.
    Jacketed hollow points, loaded to the proper length, are usually recommended for expanding bullets in semi-auto's.
     
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  7. tom mac

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    M1 carbine is my self defense rifle.
    no problem with shooting soft points in my M1 carbine... doesn't know the diff between SP and Ball.
     
  8. papershoot

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    Soft points for the AR-15. I have read that Hornady TAP, Federal Trophy Bonded Bear Claw (never saw any for sale), or 50 grain TSX would some of the best choices. I never felt like paying the price when they were available. Probably should have bought some Hornady TAP when I could have. I have 200 Gold Dot 62 grain, 200 Winchester Power Point 64 grain, and 500 Hornady Frontier 62 grain Spire Point. The Gold Dots are the only bonded round and I think they were ~$14 a box a few years ago. Bone Frog Club has some 62GR Federal Tactical Bonded.

    https://www.speer.com/ammunition/gold_dot/rifle/gold_dot_rifle_personal_protection/19-24461.html

    https://www.ar15.com/ammo/project/self_defense_ammo_FAQ/#mozTocId206397

    https://www.bonefroggunclub.com/col...actical-bonded-le223t1?variant=12168542748741
     
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  9. Z71bill

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    That maybe true with some soft points. I have not had any problem with Speer Gold dots -

    The end isn’t really like many soft points as far as exposed lead is concerned.

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    I will generally be OK with most any NATO approved 55 grain 5.56 load, but have about 200 of the premium 55 grain LE loads as they are nickel plated, which helps with ejection and corrosion.
     
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    https://www.chuckhawks.com/ammo_by_anonymous.htm

    223 Remington (5.56x45mm NATO)

    This is the standard NATO rifle round and one of the best choices for a self-defense rifle. Many top notch rifles are (or were) available in this caliber: the Colt AR-15, Ruger Mini-14, Steyr AUG, FN FNC, et cetera.

    All .223 hollow point, soft point and plastic tipped varmint bullets are good stoppers in civilian frontal shootings. These are usually in the 40-60 grain range. 55 grain bullets are the most popular weight and offered in the most loads, so consider that a clue. Nosler specifically recommends their 64 grain Bonded Solid Base soft point load for personal defense.

    Avoid the heavy soft point bullets sold for hunting Class 2 game (hogs, deer and antelope). Save ball ammo for practice, as its stopping power is very unreliable.
     
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  12. evlbruce

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    Depends.

    Best x39 is supposed to be Federal Fusion, but I've had good results with Hornady SST.

    For SD I've 77gr OTM for my AR, was able to get a bunch for a great price.
     
  13. Big Bird

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    Hah....someone please call the Army, Marine Corps etc and tell them they are doing it wrong. SMH....
     
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    I'd have to agree. I think Chucky missed this one.
     
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    I'd call that a protected point.
     
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    Speer calls it a soft point - the video reviews look pretty good - nice expansion - it was $.70 a round - maybe 9 months ago - I bought enough to get free shipping and have maybe 240 rounds left -

    I will admit the nickel platted case was one reason I like the Speer ammo - even thought I know it doesn't make any difference in performance - but some of my "Premium brass cased" ammo turns a little bit green after being in storage - \\
     
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    A good HP round is Federal LE223E Gameking. Many LE agencies use it.
     
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    It's the internet, so I'm an expert.

    Almost anything except maybe the varmint HP that may blow apart before substantial penetration.

    If it's self-defense, it's close range, which means high velocity, which means lethality. If it's not close range, is it really justifiable as self-defense?
     
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    CorBon HP's for the 5.56. Hornady 110 GMX in the .300 BO. Backup mags for the 5.56 good old NATO rounds.
     
  20. GunsNweights87

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    Black hills 50 grain tsx hollowpoint

    Xm556sbct3 bonded sp

    M855a1 best 5.56 there is and it’s neither

    I run all of the above the tsx and m855a1 will punch all level 3 steel plates like butter from 16” barrels


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