So y'all seen that George Floyd 8min bodycam vid yet? (link)

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  1. Grabbrass

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    DailyMail got ahold of it. Someone recorded it with their phone from a computer monitor. You can bet they didn't want this getting out for common folks to see. Not yet.

    Honestly it's about what I expected. Typical resisting, making excuses and begging, claims he 'just lost his mom' (she died 2 years ago), claims he can't get in the police cruiser due to claustrophobia when he was just taken out of the driver's seat of another vehicle, goes ape****. Drugged up and poppin' at the seams.

    https://streamable.com/6ubxjx

    Regardless of whether you think Chauvin and the other officers restraining Floyd committed a crime, committed actionable negligence, or did nothing wrong at all ... this at least explains how he got in that situation, and maybe even why Chauvin had no interest in giving him another chance to make trouble for them.
     
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    Thanks for sharing this.
     
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    One thing I did learn ... he's not that kind of guy.
     
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    shadowgunner9 This used to be AMERICA........

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    Interesting.
    I am no LEO, nor do I have specialized psychological training, but he did seem genuinely fearful of being stuffed.
    That said, I think the officers "may" have been able to calm him down somewhat, and have been able to better control him in some manner; his agitated state certainly did not act in either party's favor.
    Just a little less struggling and he would be alive today. Excessive force? I do not know, but if I was being selected for a jury it would be very hard to not be influenced by his quite animated state.
    This video should be spread. It does show a LOT different angle than the one we see with knee on neck.
    As they say, 2 sides to every story.
    Truth? How will an impartial jury ever be selected???????
     
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    3 FUNERALS how many thousand mourners for this POS...### him
     
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    He was "I can't breathe"-ing LONG before he ended up on the ground, that's for sure.
     
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    That's what a overdose of fentanyl will do to ya. And smoking meth with it. The meth-assisted panic attack makes the heart race, body needs more oxygen, fentanyl is depressing involuntary breath response ... pop fizzle. An unintoxicated, healthy person would not have died. But excepting for a mental illness scenario, an unintoxicated, healthy person probably wouldn't have behaved in a way that required such restraint in the first place.
     
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    'Ol Grandad Director of civil unrest

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    I'm not saying he deserved to die, but he did bring it on himself. The world is a better place w/o him. Now that I've seen this, I think Chauvin should be exonerated.
     
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    He's on drugs man. Wasn't it meth and then some? Anyway yea, it's genuine albeit drug-induced fear. He was tripping out.
     
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    I am overweight. I laid down (on carpet) with hands behind my back. It was more effort to breath. It sure looked in other video that the pressure on his body was very little after very short time. (This one still loading so maybe it clearly shows that). IMO no matter what. The Officer was wrong to not take action (gestimate, from weeks ago memory) @2 minutes in.
    “Listen. I will set you up, you will cooperate. Then we will stand you up and you will get into the squad. If you fight us you will be right back on the ground. Deal?” Type thing.
     
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    Was that a (used) cigar the officer placed on top of the vehicle? @5:22
     
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    He was on several drugs and full of booze too.
     
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    Meth, but not really that much. Also THC, amphetamines and morphine.

    But plenty of fentanyl - 11 ng/dL (7.5 ng/dL is the lower end of the lethal dose range).

    Dude was pretty much a drug store.
     
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    In a civil suit, I would think George Floyd should be found 70% responsible for his own death.
     
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    Exactly what I figured. This is why it wasn't released.
     
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    I wouldn't have thought it was even possible to panic on plenty of fentanyl. He may have been on some kind of perma-trip of anxious madness from a life of drugs i suppose
     
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    "Thao asks his fellow officers whether Floyd is high.

    'I believe so
    . We found a pipe,' Kueng replies. Lane says: 'We found a weed pipe. There might be something else, there might be like PCP or something.'

    When Floyd continues to wail that he can’t breathe, Kueng is heard telling him. ‘You’re fine. You’re talking fine.’

    Floyd replies: 'I'll probably just die this way.'

    'I'm through,' Floyd says. 'I'm claustrophobic. My stomach hurts. My neck hurts. Everything hurts. I need some water or something, please.'

    'Then stop talking. Stop yelling,' Chauvin replies. 'It takes a heck of a lot of oxygen to talk.'

    As Floyd stops moving Chauvin keeps his knee on his neck, despite complaints from a small crowd that has gathered.

    'Check his pulse,' one man says repeatedly. 'You call what you are doing okay?

    But the other officers do little to stop Chauvin. At one point Lane asks: 'Should we roll him on his side?' But Chauvin replies. 'No, he's staying where we've got him.'

    'Okay,' Lane says. 'I just worry about the excited delirium or whatever.'

    'Well, that's why we got the ambulance coming,' Chauvin says.

    By the time EMTs arrive, George Floyd is dead.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...s-moment-moment-arrest-George-Floyd-time.html "
     
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    But I'd say closer to 99%.

    Don't: [1] Be a violent felon, [2] resist arrest, [3] pass counterfeit currency [4] take multiple illegally obtained drugs.

    Do: [1] Shut up, [2] Cooperate with police if you get caught.
     
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    They sat on this one until after his funeral which rivaled those of "heads of state". The scam works much better with emotional investment. Creates unwitting support and cover protests for the communist revolution they were about to unleash. Bunch of grifters.
     
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