So, tell me about 1911 platform 10mm

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  1. Sheepdog Scout

    Sheepdog Scout Behind you!

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    • Unless, I'm wrong the most popular 10mm seems to be the Glock 20 and 29. But down the road I may be looking for something a bit different. Through my research the only other 10mm made (besides a revolver or two ) are in the 1911 platform. Through my research, for the most part, 1911 10mm's seem to usually be pretty darn pricey. Guns from Nighthawk, Kimber, STI, etc. Course other 10mm 1911s include Dan Wesson, EAA Witness models, the Smith 1006, and of course the Colt Delta Elite.
    What guns do y'all have and what are your general impressions of them and how much do they usually go for.

    Plus durability, reliability, etc.

    The cheaper ones I've seen seem to be the EAA Witness and the Smiths. I usually prefer buying new, but used isn't outta the question. Especially since this could be a new CCW gun for me.
    Thanks
     
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  3. Bullman

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    Well, mostly I have had Smith 10mms over the years, 1006, 1066 are my current ones, but at one time I did have a 1076. Solid guns, really cant hurt them much, they are a touch heavy to carry. I would really like to get my hands on a 1086, but I don't know if that will ever happen. I have a custom GP100 3 inch I had made, that's nice. The only other 10mm I have owned was one of the first run stainless steel Delta Elites. I was young, I was dumb ( never really got over the dumb part ) the PD told me I couldn't carry a single action auto so I sold it so I could finance the 1006. That gun was a shooter, it just pointed and it destroyed whatever lay before it. It was one of the most amazingly accurate shootable pistols I have ever owned. Didn't have it long enough to find out about durability but man would it shoot. I've got the jones bad for a G29, but someday I would like another 1911 style gun in 10mm, the Delta was the only one I have ever had.
     
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    I have a DW Razorback and a Sportsman. The Razorback is amazingly accurate and 100%reliable so far...I love it. The Sportsman feels just as nice, but is unfired as of yet.
    Truth of the matter is, the wife liked my R'back so much she wanted one, so she has the Sportsman.
    My SA 1911 .45 has been ignored since I acquired the DW.
     
  6. Sheepdog Scout

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    What are the average price ranges for these guns?
     
  7. G33

    G33 Frisky! CLM Millennium Member

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    Dan Wesson RB and Kimber Eclipse are good.
    Today's prices vary.
    I paid $800 for each.
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    DW ceased producing all 10mm's in '09. Lately I've seen good used, or unfired pistols going for $900-1050.
    Cabelas tends to have a few NIB pistols still in stock if you do a search.
     
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    My dealer told me Dan Wesson will make a limted run of RZ's again this year.

    Here's my 1911 10mm story. I bought a Kimber stainless 1911 in 10mm to match my favorite gun, my other stainless Kimber 45. I liked it, but my palm would go numb after about 250 rounds. I liked the 10mm so much, so I swallowed pride and got a G20, even though I hated glocks. Once I got over the ergonomics I fell in love with that gun. The recoil felt about 50% of what I felt with the Kimber and I could shoot it all day.

    So then felt like the Kimber was nothing but a safe queen and traded it for something else. I went for about 5 years without buying a single pistol because nothing was more appealing to me than a Glock 20. But I missed 1911s so much, so I went out and got one of the new Colt Delta Elites. Shot it once, and remembered why I loved my glock 20 so much and it has been a safe queen ever since. I still regret selling the Kimber. It was a better gun than the Colt. Apparently there are things you can do to reduce felt recoil too. Squared off hammer, stiffer main spring, etc. Now I know....

    Here's why I love the G20 so much:
    2x the capacity of a 1911
    Lower felt recoil
    Arguably more reliable
    If it gets stolen, scratched, dented etc... I don't care. I can go buy another for $500 at almost any gun store. Plus it's almost impossible to scratch, dent, or otherwise break a glock.
    Accuracy between the G20 and 1911's is about a tie

    YMMV.
     
  10. deeHKman

    deeHKman "It Is Written"

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    I appreciate that excellent post enjoyed reading it. Makes pure sense. I like the way to you put your post/words into a excellent prospective, Thanks for your time.I have 2 G20's and really doubt i can purchase a 1911 10mm that is more accurate. Plus imagine of 15rds of 10mm in semi. without any form of harsh recoil at all simpley amazing. Thanks again

    BTW i was considering a STI Perfect 10 double stack. Very expensive most escpecially if the G20 holds its on against it. I've read some reviews its heavy,expensive and some have been picky on some ammo. My G20's eat everything. But i'm sure its accurate so is the Glock.
     
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    Yup... I want a Kimber 1911 10mm for one reason: SEXY.

    In fact, what I really dream about is buying 2 of them and putting 1 on each of my wife's hips.

    Yeah.
     
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    I drooled a little .... :drool:
     
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    Delta gold cup. = sweet!

    What I would really like to see is:

    Delta gold cup combat commander.

    Those of you guys who have wesson bobtails in 10mm are very fortunate!
     
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    Wow ! You did get those for a good price. That are much more than taht here in Texas from what I've seen when we drive into town for a gun show.

    Congrats.


    Stay Safe.




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  16. NordicG3K

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    The 1911 is a great platform for the 10mm, but as with any handgun design it has its limitations. Those who pay more attention to rumor than fact will have you believe that the 10mm will eventually beat a 1911 to death. Yes, a 1911 in 10mm will wear faster than one chambered in .45, but this isn't any different than a S&W K-frame chambered in .38 Special vs. one in .357 Mag. The key is to set it up correctly. The three main mods that need to be done to a 10mm 1911 are 1) cutting out the slide stop notch (where the original Deltas were cracking), 2) install an oversized firing pin stop to delay unlocking, and 3) upgrade the recoil spring to something in the 20-24lb range. These three simple mods will significantly reduce the battering of the 10mm cartridge.

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    This would be a shameless plug (if the mods don't think it's appropriate, please remove it with my apologies), but I just listed a nearly new Dan Wesson CBOB in 10mm for sale on the forum.
     
  18. cowboywannabe

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    here is my First Edition Stainless Colt Delta Elite 10mm with a few upgrades which made it much easier to shoot well.

    BTGS, arched MSH, Night Sights, metal trigger, ambi thumb safety, the carbon creations grips are just for show really, work no better than stock. and finally a Titanium bearing and Stainless barrel bushing assy.

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    the arched MSH and BTGS is what really makes it for me, the fit is better for my hand, but my G20 is still better for me when it comes to handling full house 10mm loads.
     
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    Y'all have some nice guns. Do any of you CCW these things?
     
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    Just for clarification the Witness line and the Smith 10XX series of guns are not 1911's. I have shot almost all variations of the 10mm. I personally feel the 1911 trigger yields superior accuracy than what I can achieve with a glock, witness or Smith.

    Wilson and Fusion also make 1911's. I feel the Fusion offers the most bang for the buck.