Smith and Wesson 3913 & 64NY1 report

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  1. Berto

    Berto woo woo

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    It's been a little while since I hit the gun range, so off I went -with two stainless Smith and Wesson handguns.
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    The 3913 is one of the very best of the third generation Smith autos, an alloy framed TDA 9mm single stack. Barrel is about 3.25", weight is just under 25oz and it's an eight shooter plus one in the chamber. Novak low mount sights.
    The K frame .38sp is the NY1 version of the model 64, meaning bobbed hammer and DAO trigger per NYPD's specification. Fixed sights, heavy barrel and six shots. Very smooth trigger and damned if it isn't about 10lbs.
    Ammo was the usual bullseye approved Black Hills wadcutter in the revolver, Ultramax 115gr jhp's in the 3913...Bullets looked like xtps.
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    Shooting was two handed offhand at local bullseye range, distance was 25yards. Despite being smaller and lighter with a shorter barrel, the 3913 managed to keep 50 into just over 6". No issues with function, this gun lives up to the reputation of ' feeding anything ' associated with 3rd generation S&W pistols. Sight radius was nearly identical to the 4" 64's.
    I used the decocker every five shots, tugged a couple under the black, holding dead center....That's about where it shoots.
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    The NY1 did about it's usual...Which is what I consider amazing for a retired police six shooter, and I did it relatively easily with a steady pace just over the range mandated ' no faster than 1 every 2 sec'. The bunny fart wadcutters help of course with minimal muzzle lift, but the gun acts like it was a PPC ace in a previous life....The front sight just drops right back into the notch just as you're finish staging the next pull, kerchunk.
    50 into just over 5", double action. I love shooting this gun.
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    No jams on this one either. :supergrin:
     
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  2. huskerbuttons

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    Both are very fine pieces of artwork! Both are great guns. Love the Tyler T Grip on the 64. Very nice Berto!
     
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    Makes me miss my 64
     
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  4. bac1023

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    A great report on two classy handguns, Berto :cool:
     
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  5. MajorD

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    I always enjoy your reports as you actually know how to shoot! And smith K frames are my favorite shooters
     
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    Peak Fudd Amateur geezer

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    Great review and photos of two wonderful handguns. Thanks for posting.
     
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    Great handguns Berto.


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  8. ithaca_deerslayer

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    You should probably sell that NY-1 to someone who lives in NY :)
     
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  9. Berto

    Berto woo woo

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    If I get a NY2, I'll sell you that one.
     
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  10. fastbolt

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    Berto, the 3913 has a 3.5" barrel. (Actually, the same slides & 3.5" barrels were used on the 69XX guns as on the 3913's, allowing for matching production and design revisions, such as barrel tab width changes, etc.)

    I have a 3913 that was late '98 production, which I ordered directly from the factory as an armorer back then (delivered to a distributor FFL, of course), and it's always been a favorite 9mm of mine. I picked up a late production (mid 2000's) 3913TSW in recent years when I had the opportunity to buy an issued duty weapon that was being replaced because we changed to new plastic guns. I'd previously hand selected that 3913TSW NIB, from the few remaining unissued ones in our inventory. Like our other TSW's, it had been ordered with night sights.

    I've always felt that the 3913 (and variants) were probably the best 9mm defensive pistols ever produced by the company, but that makes sense when you consider the impetus was the ASP. The only small 9mm I own which I like as much is ... my CS9.

    My pair of G26's and my SW999c are fine, but they're just ... smallish plastic pistols. Perfectly fine for their intended roles, and certainly good quality guns that are decently accurate and reliable ... but the little single stack, aluminum-framed TDA S&W 9's have a certain elegance to them that plastic lacks. ;)

    Nice report. :)
     
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  11. ede

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    Nice Berto, I have neither and both are on my want list.
     
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  12. BuckyP

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    Very nice. These are from when guns had some class. :cool:
     
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  13. fnfalman

    fnfalman Chicks Dig It

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    One of these days I'll find me a 3913.
     
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  14. quantico

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    I like those old S&w autos. I owned a 39 and a 59 and they both worked well.
     
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    The S&W K Frames, IMO, are simply the most perfect looking and shooting revolvers. The size/balance of steel to grip is beautiful. Both great handguns and you obviously shoot them VERY well. Doesn't surprise me. I've been here long enough to start figuring things out. Excellent.
     
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    Great report, nice guns, great shooting! The usual for you, sir.
     
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    Very Cool. I miss my 3913, but got a good trade from a friend for a 6" Python. Nice Berto
     
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    Always like Berto Reports.

    I may have to pay you a visit. We have had a all time snow record here. We have three free gun ranges here but but don't want to do mud. Have a few new Gun Broker items to test. Did several trigger job on revolvers to test also.

    Could ship everything to you and read Berto Report.:supergrin:
     
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  19. Dom Pastore

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    Hello Guys, I too picked up an 'NY-1' "type" Model 64(-5) many years ago, & it's really one of my all time 'gun fighting' handguns ! ( I say NY-1 type, because it's not marked the same as an official NY-1, but has ALL the features of one except for the laser engraved serial # mkgs. IIRC, it's a Brink's contract overrun. ) I found it one day just sitting on a dealer's self back around 1990, & at the time was trying to persuade my Dept to upgrade our standard M-64's ( SA / DA ) to the newly introduced Round Butt, DAO w/ 4" HB for our basic issue. ( .38 SPL.+P ) I bought mine as kind of a sample / example. Unfortunately for me however, we ended up going over to 9mm SIG P.226's, then a few years later to .40 caliber P.226's. The DAO Rd Butt 64 was mine though, & I liked it soooooo much that even today remains my full time house gun. I load it up depending on the season, with either Speer 135 GDHP+P in the warmer months, then Buffalo Bore 158 LSWC-HP+P for the colder months. I just feel so confident when it's in my hands, that even in the day of the semi-auto pistol, I don't feel undergunned with my old 6 shot revolver. OK Guys, that's my .02 cents worth.

    Best, dpast32
     
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  20. Redhawk45

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    Glad to see you aren't shooting at 7 yards and bragging on the accuracy of your pistols.
     
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