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Slide stop problem

Discussion in 'Band of Glockers' started by Astra22, Jul 3, 2006.

  1. Astra22

    Astra22

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    Good day mga sir,

    I have a problem with the slide stop of my para ord pistol.

    After the last round has been fired, i've noticed that the slide stop doesnt engage the slide. I end up dry firing since i have no cue that the chamber is already empty.

    Though when an empty magazine is inserted and I rack the slide, the slide stop engages the slide. The Slide stop is not fully engaged.

    The attached picture descibes the scenario.
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    thank you.
     
  2. sundancekid

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    seems like a weak mag spring. try having your magazine spring replaced... this should do the work.
     

  3. Astra22

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    Thanks for the reply.

    Both my old and brand new orig para mags have the same result.
    Or may be the springs on my brand new magazine isn't new after all.:frown: last piece na kasi when i bought it.
     
  4. mtho

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    naka buffer ka ba?
     
  5. Eye Cutter

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    yup, i'm with mark, naka shock buff ka ba. alisin mo, nag sho-short stroke ka kaya hindi nag engage slide stop completely
     
  6. Django

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    Your slide stop does not look like it's an OFM. Did you change it? It might not be compatible with your Para mags.
     
  7. isuzu

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    Just like what mtho and eyecutter said, you might have a shok buff installed in your guide rod. Take it off and test it again. That is why Wilson recoil springs are much shorter than Wolff's. That's to put an allowance for shok buffs.
     
  8. jerrytrini

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    Either your shok buffs or the slide stop is worn at the engagement.
     
  9. Astra22

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    Pardon my ignorance, but what is a shok buff?

    Btw, the picture that i posted is not my actual gun, I just tried to browse thru the website to take a chance to find a similar porblem. (i dont have a digital camera:crying:) But that's exactly how my slide stop engages the slide.

    as far as I know, my pistol is still all stock, nothing has been modified yet.I have an 18.9 LDA.

    I tried to fielt strip my gun last night and visually inspected what could be causing the problem. I noticed that when i insert an empty magazine, the follower does not fully hit the slide stop. Parang kapos ng konti to push the slide stop a little higher.

    Can I put a "mongo sized epoxy" on the follower at the point that hit the slide stop? I think that will do the job. I just dont know if it will cause more trouble than benefit. or Should I just replace the magazine springs and followers?

    Thanks bros.
     
  10. bulm540

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    or it could be your recoil spring is too long. Looks like your slide is not cycling all the way back. If that is the case, your bushing may eventually crack.
     
  11. isuzu

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    Could be this problem, too. Try cutting a coil or two at the muzzle end of the recoil spring(wear safety glasses when doing this), or buy an extra recoil spring that corresponds to the caliber of your firearm. Here's a guide from Wolff Gunsprings: http://www.gunsprings.com/1ndex.html

    There's a FAQ section that you may find helpful.
     
  12. Astra22

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    Thanks for all the reply.

    I don't know if my analysis is correct. You are saying that the recoil spring is too long or too strong that the regular load will not be able to completely cycle or rack the slide when firing.

    Applicable pa din ba ito even if my recoil spring is stock or unmodified? At the same time, when I rack the slide with an empty magazine inserted, hindi din gaano nag eengage yung slide stop. dapat ba talaga sagad ang fit ng slide stop doon sa latch? I bought the gun 2nd hand that's whay I do not have an idea of how it should normally look like.

    Salamat po sa tulong.
     
  13. Eye Cutter

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    astra: if you have a shock buff or when the spring is too long, the slide will not reach its full cycle distance rearwards, the slide stop will not engage the notch properly
     
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    Can you manually rack the slide to the rear and push the slide stop snug in the notch?
     
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    If it is second hand gun, I bet you the spirng is not stock.
     
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    I would assume that you have already removed the shock buff and your gun still does not lock back on an empty mag.

    Do another test:

    1. Remove the recoil spring
    2. Insert an empty magazine in the gun
    3. Rack the slide backwards

    If the magazine follower activates the slide stop and locks the slide, then the recoil spring is the culprit. It might be too long.

    If it still does not lock, the problem might be the magazine or the slide stop pin.
     
  18. bulm540

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    YOu are not suppose to run the gun dry:)
     
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    It looks like the slide stop is too worn to engage and/or the mag springs are very weak.
     
  20. Astra22

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    Thanks for all the reply bros. I'll do the test as soon as I get home today.

    Thanks beeing so accommodating to newbies like me.;)