SL City Weekly Editorial: the Trolley Effect

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  1. thetoastmaster

    thetoastmaster NOT a sheepdog!

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    Let's discuss:

    http://slweekly.com/article.cfm/thetrolleyeffect

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  2. GixxerSixxer

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    I don't have a problem with it.

    Acosta states he's all for CCW permits being issued at higher number, he's not against a citizens RKBA. His problem lies in the CCW holders not getting further education.

    Some CCWers also have the false idea that the permit allows them to act like a cop when a cop isn't around. I know because I work with a guy that thinks that. The best part is that he took the CCW class with me.

    Doctors, tax preparers, etc all need continuing education. I wouldn't go to one if they didn't get the education. I'm a CCW'er and don't see myself as knowing all there is to know now that I have my permit.

    Like has been said: When the day comes to use your weapon you will NEVER rise the occasion, you will only FALL back to your training.

    Also: Learners inherit the future, the Learned merely cling to days past. NEVER stop learning.
     

  3. RMTactical

    RMTactical Battle Born CLM

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    This topic/article was discussed in carry issues earlier.

    I'll state my view/thoughts that I basically made known in that thread.

    Although a person is certainly well advised to get training with their firearm... If nothing else, know the rules of handling firearms in a safe manner and practice shooting at a range... but it shouldn't be REQUIRED.

    With that said, people should be allowed to CCW. I don't even believe a permit should be necessary, and I don't believe there should be ANY restrictions on where you can carry.

    You guys might wanna browse that thread in carry issues. It was an interesting discussion.
     
  4. thetoastmaster

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    Carry issues is a forum I don't particularly like visiting. It gets my blood up.

    I also agree that no permit should be required to CCW. In fact, if the .gov revoked all ccws today, it wouldn't stop me from exercising my natural right to defend life, liberty, and property.

    I believe it is the responsibility of every man to maintain proficiency at arms. The state cannot moraly legislate than responsibility (nor, as a corolary, remove said obligation). I think the author, and Mr. Acosta, use fear to promote their agenda, further restrictions upon the carrying of arms, either through legislation requiring training, or pure guilt (either would benefit Mr. Acosta, and similarly minded instructors).
     
  5. TylerDurden

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    Absolutely.

    It astounds me that so many men shirk this responsibility. I don't want to see required training for concealed carry, I want to see a movement back to the nation of riflemen we used to be.
     
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    With every round of elections, and every generation, it's only going to get worse; we're becoming a nation of soft, politically correct wussies.

    Teach ... your children well.
     
  7. RMTactical

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    I agree... but...

    Teach EVERYONE!

    I make it a point to welcome family, friends, and aquaintances to shoot and learn about firearms anytime I get the chance. It's all about education. People with education (and the slightest amount of common sense) on the subject seem to embrace gun ownership.