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Single EMP attack could send us back to 1800s.

Discussion in 'Survival/Preparedness Forum' started by Glock30Eric, Sep 19, 2011.

  1. Glock30Eric

    Glock30Eric .45 ACP

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    It amazes me that we are one step away from being thrown back to 1800s' lifestyle.
     
  2. Sam Spade

    Sam Spade Staff Member Lifetime Member

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    1800s? Ummm, no.

    The chief difference being that we know what's possible and how to make it so. Knowledge doesn't evaporate, skills don't fry.
     

  3. DoctaGlockta

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    I remember in Ocean's 11 they set a device off to rob a Casino. The lights came back on pretty quick so I wouldn't worry about it.
     
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    I don't know that it would be that far of a throwback. Electronics that run on vacuum tubes would have a good chance of surviving. Old vehicles with breaker point ignitions and carburetors too.

    It would definitely cause a lot of chaos in the major cities at the onset.
     
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    Temporary 1800's, possibly, but temporary only very short-term imo; just too much knowledge as Sam Spade points out, and too much 'stuff' for it to absolutely all be wiped out. Some stuff would survive unharmed, and that 'stuff' combined with the knowledge of how the stuff is made, would mean that more 'stuff' is quickly repaired & back online.

    I wouldn't expect more than a few days' or a few weeks' disruption at most. A lot can happen in a few days or weeks, though, so it's still an ugly premise imo.
     
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    Except we do not have a working 1800's infrastructure.

    No infrastructure.......no lifestyle.

    Ice delivery (for ice boxes), milk delivery, etc

    Self sustaining communities simply do not exist like they did!


    On a personal level, how many here have access to a hand pumped water well?

    Horse drawn wagon?

    A home that is comfortable in summer & winter without HVAC?

    A root cellar stocked with canned goods?

    An outhouse?
     
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    The 1800's wouldn't be so bad... the Amish seem to manage.

    EMP is not a new idea. The military has been hardening all their electronics against it for years.

    Any country who sets off an emp device over the USA would regret it.
     
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    G29Reload Tread Lightly

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    Key word: COULD.

    Too much unknown. A suicide run for the perp. Really winging it.
     
  10. mac66

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    Probably not 1880s. The feds did a report on EMP a couple years ago. They found that while an EMP would cause major problems, it is not the end of the world. For example most modern vehicles are not as vulnerable as people believe. In tests, only about 10% of the vehicles were knocked out and some of them were able to be restarted. I'll try and find a link to the report.

    If you want to be bummed out, go read the book, One Second After. Tis a novel about what happens in an EMP strike. Not entirely accurate but it will scare the heck out of you.
     
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    The great outdoors - check
     
  12. Glock30Eric

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    I have the book with me. :)
     
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    I personally believe that the size and true effectiveness of EMP's are really overblown. Im not really convinced they can cause the mass destruction of electrical devices that most people believe.

    On the other hand im sure Japan never believed it was possible that one bomb cold destroy one city in WWII.

    I think this falls in the "Ill believe it when i see it" category, but I am all for discussion and preparedness so I think its still worth examining.
     
  14. 4TS&W

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    More likely.. one or two EMP over each coast.. it'll cover the most population. Also 1 possibly over Chicago/Atlanta/Dallas areas... if it didn't shut us down for good, whoever did it will be reaping their own doom though..
     
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    EMP = not the boogyman.


    powerful, and dangerous? yes.

    1 second after, EOTWAWKI? Not even close.
     
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    I agree with most of what you say and like most am in awe of many of your assets and value your opinion.

    But I just don't agree that EMP will have such a long lasting and all encompassing effect as you do. I have read many studies on it as well and the effect on cars and simple engines just don't seem like that big a deal.

    Now, the electrical grid itself, (power plants/transformers/sub stations/etc.) I agree, will suffer greatly. but I just don't see a plunge into the 1800's.
     
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    I wouldn't get scientific knowho from a movie, let alone any of the Ocean's series. :rofl:
     
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    If a nuclear bomb was exploded high enough in the atmosphere over the middle part of the country, the electromagnetic pulse would fry electronic devices from coast to coast.

    I hate to say but, If a nuc that large exploded over the US. Your cell phone not working would be the least of your problems. At that point we would all be seeing our creator.
     
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    :mememe: Except the horse drawn part.

    All it takes is one,in the right place.'08. :faint:
     
  20. cyrsequipment

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    Um, I think the original comment was using a slight bit of sarcasm....:upeyes: