Singer Sewing Machine Company Built the Best .45 Pistol Ever Made

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  1. bababoris

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    Waiting for Bac to post pic of his Singer 1911......

    :thumbsup:
     

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    Yes, but if I had that much cash on hand I'd probably just pay off my house.

    https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/51/1954/singer-1911a1-pistol-price-80500

    https://www.rockislandauction.com/d...st-condition-us-singer-manufacturing-co-model

    Granted, those two are special cases.
     
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    My father bought 2 rifles from a High School ROTC shooting program sometime in the early 70's. They where both WWII surplus. Not sure the model, but they were both 30-06 and one was a Singer. He was going to have them checked by a gunsmith and fixed up for deer hunting. Don't know what became of them, sure wish I did.
     
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    The first 1911 I ever shot was a rental cobbled together from spare parts with a Singer slide. It rattled but worked every time I pressed the loud button. I was hooked.
     
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    I’m familiar with them, one of the most faked guns in existence. If there’s only a handful of “mint” Singers out there, I’ve seen every single one for sale 2-3 times.

    I’ve encountered two (had in my hands), that I believe are real- one was a 60% gun that was for sale for $40k some years ago and one that had been parkerized for $13k.

    There are few guns that I’d hand over serious cash for (transferable Stoner 63A, Hollywood AR-10B, etc) and a Real Singer is one of them, but IMO for every real singer there are 2-3 fakes floating around, and some are so good it’s scary.
     
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    A Singer rifle? Could he have meant a Smith-Corona 1903A3?
     
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    Went young a buddy hunted with a singer M1 carbine
     
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    Maybe that's where the term "it runs like a sewing machine" came from. :dunno:
     
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    Singer was never a manufacturer of M1 Carbines. They actually turned down a large government contract for 1911A1s following their run of 500 in the Summer of 1941.
     
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    Hydra-Matic was the name used for the GM automatic transmission, I think it originated in the ‘40s or around that time to replace manual transmissions.

    If that’s your question.

    I thought transbrake was to hold car at line in drag racing. Similar function what I recall as Line Lock only uses transmission rather than brakes.
     
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    Singer made 500 1911A1s on an "educational contract" with most of the work done before Pearl Harbor. They declined a production contract, saying their equipment and workforce were better suited to more precision work than firearms. They mostly made artillery fire directors (not Norden bomb sights as commonly thought.) Probably kept on making sewing machines for uniform production, too.

    Their 1911 specific tools and dies went mostly to Ithaca. Who, surprisingly for an established gun company, had more trouble turning out on-spec pistols than other contractors like Remington Rand and US&S.
     
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    It is my understanding that most of the Educational contract of 500 guns ended up being issued to the Army Air Corps during WW2.
     
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    Yes, a lot did. Lots of them in B17 wreckage. The ones that made it back didn't get shot much and are now collector treasures in excellent shape.
     
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    Yeah, thats a cool bit of history.

    500 made in a short contract....and it seems they went to the USAF bomber groups that suffered horrendous casualties during the war...thus many took them to their graves.

    ...
     
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    Singer did not produce rifles. They did produce some M-1 Carbine receivers' only.
    The reason the Singer 1911 is expensive is it's rarity. Of the Million plus 1911s Singer only produced 500.
     
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    :animlol:

    Nah, I don’t put value in those, honestly. I’m not a collector of surplus stuff.
     
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