[Southswede]

I wonder if the eventual damage on the SIG would result in injuries? If indeed it's a production-wide issue and not just a run of barrels.

Time will tell. I'm thinking Sig will resolve any issues quickly-like they did with the whole -30 degree drop thing.

 

[bac1023]

Um no, you just have an irrational hate towards Sig as you put a LOT of effort into voicing your opinion on what other people carry or shoot. To put things in perspective, Glock basically had to send a portable machine shop to NY for a YEAR for their G19s. There's a LONG distinguished history of Glock "upgrades" over the years.

Uh yeah, it’s definitely made a bigger splash than anything Glock has done or not done over the years.

As for irrational hate towards Sig, I’ve likely got more invested with Sig than all you apologists in this thread combined. I simply want the company to be better like it always was.

Speaking of forcing opinions, that’s kind of the pot calling the kettle black...but whatever.

 

[kyjd75]

I agree with bac1023. I always considered the Sig P226 the ultimate high quality firearm. Now it seems not to be so.

 

[kyjd75]

In fact, I would love to have a set of 226, 227 and 229 Sigs, but I'm afraid to make that investment right now considering all the problems Sig is having concerning QC.

 

[Mister X]

Um no, you just have an irrational hate towards Sig as you put a LOT of effort into voicing your opinion on what other people carry or shoot.

Why do you feel a need to constantly defend Sig? I see you and a couple of others posting on every single thread on the P365. If someone is bashing a particular gun, why does it matter to you?

 

[bill123]

Maybe he is just adding needed perspective. Many people reading this will not be as well read as us

 

[Southswede]

Why do you feel a need to constantly defend Sig? I see you and a couple of others posting on every single thread on the P365. If someone is bashing a particular gun, why does it matter to you?

Just a guess, but maybe its because Glock is no better than Sig and the hypocrisy is comical?

I have more Glock's than Sig's, so i guess than makes me a Glock fanboy. :supergrin:

 

[MD357]

Uh yeah, it’s definitely made a bigger splash than anything Glock has done or not done over the years.

As for irrational hate towards Sig, I’ve likely got more invested with Sig than all you apologists in this thread combined. I simply want the company to be better like it always was.

Speaking of forcing opinions, that’s kind of the pot calling the kettle black...but whatever.

Bac, in terms of "forcing opinions" you'd have a point if I involved myself constantly in Glock threads. I don't. Whereas, here you are, telling people constantly that Sigs are POSs.

Get over yourself man lol....what makes you believe you're the alpha and omega of being "invested" in Sig Sauer? You carry them? have one on your bedside? run a rifle in a class? or run one in competition?

 

[Southswede]

Bac, in terms of "forcing opinions" you'd have a point if I involved myself constantly in Glock threads. I don't. Whereas, here you are, telling people constantly that Sigs are POSs.

Get over yourself man lol....what makes you believe you're the alpha and omega of being "invested" in Sig Sauer? You carry them? have one on your bedside? run a rifle in a class? or run one in competition?

Careful, he's runs a company with millions of employees, making hundreds of dollars a year!!

 

[MD357]

Why do you feel a need to constantly defend Sig? I see you and a couple of others posting on every single thread on the P365. If someone is bashing a particular gun, why does it matter to you?

People come to this forum to discuss different platforms other than Glock. I'd say the same things about other platforms I own, including but not limited to, FN, H&K, Steyr and 1911s. You and others have a hard on for the P365 at the moment so it will seem like I'm constantly defending the gun, because I'm here discussing and others are constantly bashing. However, I spoke honestly of mine. I sent it back to Sig and others have piggy backed ever since without even so much as touching the gun.

What does it matter to me? It's normal to discuss a platform you own with others is it not? Isn't that why we are all here? Yet what's NOT normal.... is someone involving themselves in EVERY P365 thread when they don't own one, have not shot one, and haven't even seen or held one. I'll give you an example, I think the 19x is retarded concept, Glock has it backwards, per ususal. If they'd put a G17slide on a 19 frame they'd sell like hotcakes. That's my opinion anyways, it's worth what you paid for it. Do you see me ranting and raving in EVERY 19X thread like you all are here? Honestly, I'm glad people like them, more power to them, hope they turn out to be great guns for them. THAT is the difference between us. Why isn't that obvious?

 

[5Sensify]

I'm a fanboy of my own Sigs, because I got the best Sigs for me. I enjoy my Sigs! Same with Glock, I don't like them, but I really love my G17.
The point is: Personal favoritism is a private issue about a particular preference. lol

 

[Mister X]

People come to this forum to discuss different platforms other than Glock. I'd say the same things about other platforms I own, including but not limited to, FN, H&K, Steyr and 1911s. You and others have a hard on for the P365 at the moment so it will seem like I'm constantly defending the gun, because I'm here discussing and others are constantly bashing. However, I spoke honestly of mine. I sent it back to Sig and others have piggy backed ever since without even so much as touching the gun.

What does it matter to me? It's normal to discuss a platform you own with others is it not? Isn't that why we are all here? Yet what's NOT normal.... is someone involving themselves in EVERY P365 thread when they don't own one, have not shot one, and haven't even seen or held one. I'll give you an example, I think the 19x is retarded concept, Glock has it backwards, per ususal. If they'd put a G17slide on a 19 frame they'd sell like hotcakes. That's my opinion anyways, it's worth what you paid for it. Do you see me ranting and raving in EVERY 19X thread like you all are here? Honestly, I'm glad people like them, more power to them, hope they turn out to be great guns for them. THAT is the difference between us. Why isn't that obvious?

I'm not ranting and raving about the P365 and only a couple of people are defending it like they are personally invested in it. I can understand wanting to correct misinformation, but the gun is having problems. That's a fact. Most are impartial or don't really care and others(like myself) are interested in it and want to learn more about it for legitimate reasons to decide whether to purchase one or not. You bought one, it had problems, many others have had problems, Sig has stopped production on them AFAIK, so I obviously won't be buying one as of right now, but will continue to follow threads on it to see if they can hopefully get them straightened out. I hope they do as I like having more options. I view guns primarily as tools. I have no brand loyalty. Whatever I determine is the best product for my needs, that's what I choose no matter who makes it.

 

[hile]

I like the classic P-series Sigs. I have a P226 Legion and P229 Legion as well as an older P229 (2004ish) in 357SIG, I shot a P320, and I wasn't a fan. I'd like at least one P220 Legion (perhaps both the 10mm and the 45ACP) to complete the set, but I don't know if I am willing to buy new again. The way Sig handled the P320 situation left a bad taste in my mouth. Do all brands have problems? Yes. But compare how the P320 situation went to how, say, Walther handled the CCP recall. My wife owned a CCP. I didn't like the gun myself, and she eventually traded it, but I was very impressed how Walther handled those issues.

 

[MD357]

I'm not ranting and raving about the P365 and only a couple of people are defending it like they are personally invested in it. I can understand wanting to correct misinformation, but the gun is having problems. That's a fact. Most are impartial or don't really care and others(like myself) are interested in it and want to learn more about it for legitimate reasons to decide whether to purchase one or not. You bought one, it had problems, many others have had problems, Sig has stopped production on them AFAIK, so I obviously won't be buying one as of right now, but will continue to follow threads on it to see if they can hopefully get them straightened out. I hope they do as I like having more options. I view guns primarily as tools. I have no brand loyalty. Whatever I determine is the best product for my needs, that's what I choose no matter who makes it.

Before the gun was even released you were knocking it on the problems the P320 had were you not? "Following" vs bashing and piling on are two different things. More power to you in whatever you buy or carry but I was just pointing out the difference in someone whom has actually bought one and comes here to talk about it vs the cheap seats.

 

[Mister X]

Before the gun was even released you were knocking it on the problems the P320 had were you not? "Following" vs bashing and piling on are two different things. More power to you in whatever you buy or carry but I was just pointing out the difference in someone whom has actually bought one and comes here to talk about it vs the cheap seats.

I'm skeptical of any new, unproven design and there were problems from the start with the p365(blamed on the weather, wrong lube) that persisted once it was released. And I don't know how anyone couldn't be leery of of any striker-fired Sig based on the issues with the p320. The p365's internals are very similar to the p320, but significantly scaled down, which tends to exacerbate any design problem. And I'm still not convinced the removable FCU, while innovative, is a reliable and robust design. It may be, but it has yet to be proven. At least to me. A new magazine design adds another unproven quantity. Based on all of that, I'll take a wait and see approach. I find that to be just good common sense, not bashing of piling on.

 

[Wurger]

Bac, in terms of "forcing opinions" you'd have a point if I involved myself constantly in Glock threads. I don't. Whereas, here you are, telling people constantly that Sigs are POSs.

Get over yourself man lol....what makes you believe you're the alpha and omega of being "invested" in Sig Sauer? You carry them? have one on your bedside? run a rifle in a class? or run one in competition?

bac has a Napoleon Complex and believes that having more guns in the safe than someone else makes him an expert. Sort of like a person who buys a huge set of book shelves and stocks them with great works of literature, flips through them to see any pictures that might be contained within them, returns them to the shelf and considers himself to be a great man of knowledge.
Try the ignore button for this individual, it makes the ‘Glock Talk’ experience so much better. It has to raise the average IQ of those remaining by twenty points.

 

[jdmb03]

Sig halts production of the P365 because of issues and this thread goes off the rails with dick measuring.

Fact: Sig has issues with the P365
Fact: Sig has issues with the P320

Nothing wrong with having an opinion either way.

 

[Chui]

Wouldn't put the VP9 in that category.

I've not had issues with mine at all. What have yours suffered?


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[Chui]

Funny. Whenever I am involved in training and the whole class must stop because someone's gun quit running, it's always the guy with the 1911.

Keep in mind that's a TYPE of pistol and who knows what hey are running.

Most don't understand that a 1911 needs LUBRICATION; there's lots of metal on metal surfaces on them. Treat them like one would a lawnmower and they'll let you know it.

Also, since there are many magazine suppliers, mag follower and spring suppliers... what, if anything, has the person added, subtracted from his/her pistol.

One has to be a hobbyist to run those pistols.


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[MD357]

I'm skeptical of any new, unproven design and there were problems from the start with the p365(blamed on the weather, wrong lube) that persisted once it was released. And I don't know how anyone couldn't be leery of of any striker-fired Sig based on the issues with the p320. The p365's internals are very similar to the p320, but significantly scaled down, which tends to exacerbate any design problem. And I'm still not convinced the removable FCU, while innovative, is a reliable and robust design. It may be, but it has yet to be proven. At least to me. A new magazine design adds another unproven quantity. Based on all of that, I'll take a wait and see approach. I find that to be just good common sense, not bashing of piling on.

The waiting is normal and logical. Involving yourself in every conversation with negative retort is not, IF you truly have a objective wait and see attitude. To me it just seems you're talking out of both sides of your mouth. You don't like Sigs, don't trust them, or whatever. Great, I don't spend time following platforms I don't trust or shoot.