Should Trump pardon Manifort?

Discussion in 'Political Issues' started by LordAnderson, Jul 30, 2018.

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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    45.9%
  1. LordAnderson

    LordAnderson

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    His trial kicks off tomorrow and it sounds like the only mention of Russia will be the the context of the Ukrainians who he used to work for. The trial is largely about taxes and the guy generally being a crook.

    Sounds like the state has a lot of evidence and some cooperating witnesses so I don’t anticipate him skating on all charges.

    So if he is convicted, should Trump pardon him or let him keep his federal inmate orange jumpsuit.
     
  2. Dave Brubaker

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    Who is Manifort, a Russian bot?
     

  3. LordAnderson

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    Manafort...my mistake. Mods feel free to fix since I can’t.
     
  4. "Doc" Cavalry

    "Doc" Cavalry MAJ (USA Ret.)

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    You can actually, just under the poll, to the right, drop down menu, "Thread Tools".

    Honestly, it's hard to say as far as your question goes. There has been so much overwhelming static and noise about Manafort being the downfall of Trump for the Russia collusion that never happened, that I don't think there have been any reliable reports about what he has done.

    Let the trial finish, see what he's done, and if he's being unfairly prosecuted.

    It would be interesting to compare what he did with what the Clinton's did though. Just to see how they match up.
     
  5. steve4102

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    Well, before you run a poll on a Presidential Pardon, it would be wise to list the charges Mannafort is facing and whether or not a President can pardon said crimes.

    ...and before you go full ********, no a President cannot pardon every and all crimes.
     
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    Not sure he SHOULD pardon Manofart, but pretty sure he WILL. After all, that is what big daddy Putin would want to see done.

    If/when convicted by the federal grand jury, of course. :cowboy:

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  7. Featherweight

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    I am thinking he gets through the trial no conviction or some type of time served. He is a friend of ours not a friend of mine.
     
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  8. steve4102

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    Really, “convicted by a Federal Grand Jury”?

    Do you even know what a “grand jury” is? I didn’t think so.
     
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    Will Beararms Millennium Member

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    If the GOP loses in November, he won’t be pardoned. The Dem controlled House will Impeach Trump and the Republican Oligarchs in the Senate will lead by the nose through the process as they are now in most cases.
     
  10. DonGlock26

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    No Russian collusion? Where are the Russian collusion charges?
     
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    Pretty sure a president can pardon federal tax and money laundering type crimes, which is all Manafort is facing. Constitution says he can pardon any federal crime other than a conviction by impeachment. Manafort isn't charged with any state crimes.
     
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    Bren NRA Life Member

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    Turns out, even a grand jury needs some fact basis for an indictment, no matter how thin. The left has nothing but stories they made up from thin air about "collusion."
     
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  13. "Doc" Cavalry

    "Doc" Cavalry MAJ (USA Ret.)

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    Manafort was working with Ukrainians, aren’t they having a bit of a spat with Putin?

    Grand Jury’s indict, a petit Jury convicts.

    The things Manafort is accused of predated his work with Trump by about 10 years.

    Your imagination is running wild again.
     
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    He won't need a pardon if he's innocent. If he's found guilty the President can do what he wants. I don't think the Presidential pardon was designed as a get your friends out of jail free card though.
     
  15. steve4102

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    What did you guy Obama do with his constitutional power to pardon?
    How about you post up the names and the crimes of those he pardoned .

    While your at it post up Slick Willy’s as well.
     
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    Depends on what he is convicted of, if anything.
    If it's money laundering, tax evasion type stuff, that might have a strong odor.
    The president may not want to hitch his wagon to that.

    We shall see.
     
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  17. robhic

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    That's the part that would bother me. Is he guilty as charged? I don't know but he is facing life in prison for it.

    Clinton AND obamba are traitors that planned schemes against American citizens and were traitorous, IMO, by selling Uranium and weapons and all sorts of stuff yet still walk free. Ah, the benefits of power and money. If Manafort was a dem you know he'd be so far off the radar and out of the "news" as to be funny.
     
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  18. Pythonman

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    If it’s something pardonable, Trump
    should do it after he wins re-election 2020.
     
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    Lets not forget Warren Harding. He's as relevant to the Manafort case as Obama and Clinton.
     
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  20. "Doc" Cavalry

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    Would you prefer that they be sold to friends, like they have been in the past.
     
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