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Shooting at Sikh Temple WI

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by 50 Cent, Aug 5, 2012.

  1. RottnJP

    RottnJP Lifetime Member

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    The same people referred to the shooter having damaged several squads with gunfire- He's talking about the cars, and the carbine then is simply the rifle carried in the squad car. In this case, the squads carry M-4's, apparently.

    Just the lingo: Don't over-think it.
     
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    eyelikeglasses Hooah, Hooah.

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    Wasn't he accused of only having a pistol? Serious.
     

  3. ray9898

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    Yup....most agencies just refer to it as a patrol rifle.
     
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    I say potato and You say potahto, I say tomato and You say tomahto .


    LIB MSM LEXICON:

    M4/AK47 full auto in the hands of a terrorist = Automatic Rifle/Weapon

    M4 full auto in the hands of a police officer = Squad/Patrol Rifle/Weapon

    M4 semi-auto in the hands of a law-abiding US citizen = Assault Rifle/Weapon
     
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    eyelikeglasses Hooah, Hooah.

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    So the security cameras were off at the Temple on Sunday. Didn't they observe suspicious persons there the day before? Why turn off the cameras they next day? And now the shooter committed suicide?
     
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    TBO Why so serious? CLM

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    Are you seeing "patterns"?
     
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    kensb2 pistol n00b

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    Other than the stories linked in this thread, I haven't read up on what happened here. However, I am curious why the man being interviewed in the video (I'm assuming he was there), said there were 4 white male shooters, but every other report & LE is only saying 1? No, I'm not trying to start any crazy conspiracy theory crap. I'm more curious if it's possible that the 'eye witness' got the details THAT WRONG.
     
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    TBO Why so serious? CLM

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    Yes.

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    kensb2 pistol n00b

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    So he imagined the other 3? Can anyone explain how that would happen?
     
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    TBO Why so serious? CLM

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    You are viewing the event with hindsight (knowing what happened/knowing what you're looking for.

    He didn't, he experienced it has it unfolded.
    He wasn't sitting there looking back waiting for the gunman he knew would appear.

    He was going through his normal day, doing his normal thing, in condition white.

    When shots/yelling broke out, he didn't know what was going on. His pulse went through the roof, his adrenaline rush/dump didn't help him coldly/clearly OODA.

    Think about a time in your life where you were seriously startled by something. Now magnify that by a factor of at least 10x.

    I could go further, but you should be getting my point by now.

    Respectfully,

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    I have been to Iraq twice TBO, and admittedly my first handful of convoys were certainly similar to that (although I'm sure I was better prepared for the IED dodging). I'm just still having a hard time wrapping my head around 1 person vs. 4 people, 1 gun vs. 4 guns. I will have to admit, though, that the mind does tend to do whatever it needs to in order to protect itself in highly stressful situations.
     
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    TBO Why so serious? CLM

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    Hear a shot, think it came from one place/guy, hear another shot, think it came from yet another place, guy.

    Lots of confusion. Add to that people are people. Interview enough witnesses and you'll find they run an amazing range.
     
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    TBO,

    You know it was black helicopters that descended on the place and did and planted a body. You just don't want to admit it.

    :rofl:


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    What is more probable? A lone racist nut or a govt conspiracy?

    Exactly.

    Conspiracy.




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    TBO Why so serious? CLM

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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnXXFe9tFy8"]Crazy eyewitness account guy on Fox 10 news. - YouTube[/ame]

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    Another example of a witness:


    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkDComEOWt0"]Witness Describes Robbery Attempt - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    I'm not reading all that's been posted in this thread since I last looked, because I've been around long enough to know what it's worth.

    However, on the "4 or 5 shooters" conspiracy theory, I'll say this: when I first started reading about this, I thought it seemed very unusual for a skinhead to carry out a solo racial attack like this. While tere are others who might, my feeling was that white power skinheads are very "group" centered and I'd have expected more than 1.

    On the one hand, this guy could have just gone off, same as any other nut shooter. The small number of people killed supports that.

    On the other hand, it isn't impossible that there were multiple shooters and while the dead guy was shooting it out with police, the others were running for it, out the back (I say that not knowing the layout, or how many police arrived or how fast).

    That doesn't make it a CIA covert operation or an alien invasion, but if the information came out that a couple of other buddies of the dead shooter were also involved, I wouldn't be shocked.

    On the third hand - if you saw some sketchy info that some witness claimed there was more than 1 shooter and you started thinking that somehow meant a conspiracy involving the government, you aren't rational and probably shouldn't be trusted with a gun yourself.
     
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    Hey, this is pretty catchy- I think all witness statements should be set to music...

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2g76DUy7jKY&feature=related"]Backing up song ORIGINAL!!! - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Huh? :dunno:
     
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