Shield 40/357 Sig.

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  1. TN.Frank

    TN.Frank "Don't Tread On Me!"

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    I currently have a Glock 31 and 33 and 30s but sometimes want to carry something thinner. That's when I break out the 9mm Shield but I'm just not crazy about 9mm all that much. Would it be worth it to get a Shield in 40 and drop in a 357 Sig barrel or in something this size am I better off just sticking with 9mm?
     
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    I did this in a different model just for the ability to shoot something different easily and cheaper, than buying more guns.

    Do it. Then you will be able to make a realistic decision on which caliber you want to carry based on personal experience. If you don't like them, well, then you still have the ability to play at the range. They do both shoot nice.

    I don't regret the money spent.
     

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    fnfalman Chicks Dig It

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    Use 9mm Plus P Plus if you’re worried that much.
     
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    ^This. A G43 has similar barrel length to G33. With 9mm +P+ Gold Dot from Underwood, the velocity winds up within 50fps of standard 357 Sig Gold Dot. I’ve tested.
     
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  5. TN.Frank

    TN.Frank "Don't Tread On Me!"

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    Even 9mm +p+ doesn't come close to 357 Sig. If I do get the 40cal Shield I'd get it in FDE so it'll look different from the 9mm one I have. I just think it'd be nice to have 357 Sig power in a gun that's as easy to carry as my 9mm Shield.
     
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    Wrong.

    G26 (same barrel length as G43) with 9mm Gold Dot +P+
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    Standard pressure 357 Sig (same weight bullet).
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    Less than 50 FPS different.
     
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  7. Chowser

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    SIG P239?
    It’s thin but heavy.
     
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    I think your idea, if you get a Shield 40, of getting it in a different color is a smart move. I have a bunch of Shields and find myself liking them more and more and shooting them more than my Glocks. Maybe its because they are the newest toy? The carrying features of the Shield line is attractive to many and I find myself also carrying them more. I've been impressed with the accuracy of the Shields and find it on a par to my G19.

    I was able to buy mine when the street price was around $349-369 and you could throw a $75 rebate on top of that. It made for a price that was hard to walk away from. $274 for a fine pistol was indeed a bargain. I haven't sold any Glocks nor are there any plans to do so, I just made room for some Shields.

    I bought a P226 in a 357Sig and after a few boxes of ammo through it bought a .40 barrel and sold the Sig barrel. Reloading the 357Sig was not worth the effort for me and haven't looked back.

    You might be happy with the .40 performance in another Shield.
     
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    The real question to me is what are you gaining over .40 with the .357 conversion? 165 grn HST is pretty damn effective out of a short barrel
     
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    Can you get a SiG barrel for a Shield?


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    I have the 9mm and 40 Shield (excellent guns) (I wouldn't mind having a 357 SIG Shield.)

    Also have the Glock 33 357 SIG.

    Personally I'd carry any of the Shields before the Glock.
    But I'm not much of a Glock fan.
     
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    TN.Frank "Don't Tread On Me!"

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    Yes, Remsport makes one. Also, that's some slow 357 Sig ammo. I have a 115gr Sierra load that gives me avg. of 1424 fps out of my G33 and and with my 124gr V-Crown load I get 1457 fps out of my G31. I've not seen any +p+ 9mm that get's into the 1400 fps range. Also my max 115gr Sierra load clocked 1567 fps avg. Out of the 31. Show me a 115gr. 9mm load that'll do the same out of a Glock 17.
     
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    And how was the recoil? In my experience the ergonomics of the Shield are better than the G43 but both are manageable with standard ammo. But I've shot the 40 caliber shield and it's not that much worse than the 9, so maybe the Sheild would be better for 9mm +P+?
     
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    Are you a professional Internet tough guy, or do you just play one on TV? :D

    I’m a fan of 357 Sig.

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    But it really shines in full frame pistols where it can take advantage of the extra powder.

    That same “slow” normal pressure 357 Sig Gold Dot?

    Not so slow. With the right barrel.
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    But keep Internet toughing. When I had looked into the Shield 1.0 357 Sig conversion, there was some durability concern. Good luck with trying to use nuclear power 357 Sig in it.

    If you like it, good for you!

    For self defense carry, I tend to subscribe to the Mas Ayoob camp of “use traditional ammo for liability reasons.” That’s the reason I posted the standard LE Gold Dot 357 Sig round that Frank deems “slow.”

    If I’m carrying small, I usually carry 380 or 9mm. If I feel that 357 is more appropriate, I carry a larger firearm because when I do my speed/accuracy index is pretty similar: large gun/large caliber to small gun/small caliber.

    If I do carry a hot round in a slim pistol, I’ll usually opt for an extended magazine. In my LCPs, that’s made a world of difference in comfort and recoil management.
     
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  15. TN.Frank

    TN.Frank "Don't Tread On Me!"

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    I always run the 8 round mags in my Shield so I can get a better grip on it unless I need to carry a bit deeper then I'll go for the flush fit.
    Extra barrel length does really help the Sig hit those higher velocities but given the 3.1" barrel of the Shield and Standard pressure 9mm vs 357 Sig at Standard pressure I still think the Sig gets the velocity nod.
     
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    I realize this is a older thread, but I will chime in.

    Recently I got the Remsport 357 Sig for my Shield 40 1.0.

    I also have a 9mm barrel and mags for it.

    I have now put 300ish round of 357 sig through it. PPU and Fiocchi 124 gr.

    I am well pleased with the guns performance.

    To me, the recoil is much less than when I have shot +P+ 9mm from the gun.

    With thousands of rounds through this gun I have never had any kind of failure. I did put an Apex Duty/Carry trigger kit in it in the early going because its trigger was not very smooth. But never a failure of any kind except this operator.