She spat at me!!

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  1. geofri

    geofri Poikilotherm™ Lifetime Member

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    My AK spat at me the other day!

    It is the second time I've had gas/cinders/particles of some sort thrown at my eye from under the dust cover, while firing it! ( I think it was from the gap between the cover and the carrier spring base)

    I'm using eye protection now, but it's unpleasant and sure don't want to rely on having to wear glasses in an emergency.

    Whats the deal? I've never heard of such a thing happening.:dunno:
     
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  2. CnRnut

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    I'd find your "brass",and give them a good looking at.
    You might be piercing the primers.
     

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    Spit back on her and keep shooting.

    Seriously, wear eye gear always, and I agree about the primers.
     
  4. Bravo 1

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    To answer the question intelligently, more info is needed.

    1: what model rifle?

    2: ammo type and country of manufacture?

    3: what mods have you done, if any, to your weapon?

    4: why did you ignore one of the cardinal rules of weapon handling?
     
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    This is possible, but there's plenty enough flow through gases present to cause this with a really loose cover. By flow through I'm of course referring to the gases allowed to flow around the piston head once it's cleared the gas block. I had a Hakim 8mm years ago that would literally dirty up your shooting glasses every 10 or so rounds, although it used direct gas impingement.
     
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  6. Berto

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    Spit happens.














    :supergrin:
     
  7. geofri

    geofri Poikilotherm™ Lifetime Member

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    I'm not at home right now, but I'll check it first thing when I get back. Pretty sure they weren't pierced though.

    :rofl: i was waitin' for that.

    1. WASR-10
    2. Silver bear hollow points, and wolf fmj.
    3. No mods, save for shaving the magwell to allow more mag types to fit.
    4. Cuz they aren't cool. ( yeah that was smart, but I'm assuming you don't actually want me to try to give you a real answer)


    :rofl:

    bad.
     
  8. Bravo 1

    Bravo 1 Serious Infidel CLM

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    I would replace my firing pin spring and pin.
     
  9. geofri

    geofri Poikilotherm™ Lifetime Member

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    You guys are good.

    Didn't see any pierced primers, until a took a closer look!
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    Also, strange ding on the same spot of each shell.. diagnosis?
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  10. wingspar

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    I will guess the ding on the brass to be from the extractor. I see something similar with my Mini-14. I just looked at a bunch of steel casings (Golden Tiger) from my WASR 10/63, and found a similar ding on one casing, but had to use a magnifying glass to see it. I doubt it is of any concern, but I’m sure we’ll get some more experienced opinions than mine on the dings, and I’m interested in reading them.
     
  11. Aurora

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    Ejector mark.

    I would change your firing pin spring, maybe the firing pin as well.

    V.
     
  12. geofri

    geofri Poikilotherm™ Lifetime Member

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    Either of you recommend an AK parts supplier?

    I'm totally new to buying parts, and don't know where to start..

    Googling AK parts turns up lots, but I don't like to buy important items from a seller that I don't have experience with.
     
  13. CnRnut

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    OK,you know why it's spitting now.
    Before you start looking at the pin,just check
    the profile of your hammer face. Long ago when Century
    made their own fire control group,the parts were almost junk.
    I've seen a hammer that had taken the profile of the bolt stem
    and had a nipple on it. This was pushing the firing pin into the
    bolt stem further then is should,popping primers.
    If your hammer looks good,pull the pin and inspect.
     
  14. geofri

    geofri Poikilotherm™ Lifetime Member

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    Hammer looks fine to me,

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    The "butt" of the firing pin is a bit banged up.
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    Front looks ok.?
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    I have yet to take the firing pin completely out.. but assume looking at it externally isn't enough?
     
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    Just looking at your pic. of the pin it's to long.
    You might need a new bolt.
     
  16. geofri

    geofri Poikilotherm™ Lifetime Member

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    Couldn't I just file down the pin then?
     
  17. CnRnut

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    many times the easy fix,isn't the correct one.

    Pull your pin and lets check it.
    Pin specs.
    83.35mm is the over all lenght,
    1.40 min - 1.52 mm max protrusion through the firing pin hole

    That is 3 9/32" OAL on the pin
    0.0551"min - 0.0598 max protrusion.
     
  18. geofri

    geofri Poikilotherm™ Lifetime Member

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    Thanks for the numbers! went to the effort of converting my measurement in inches to mm, only to have missed you did that for me. :upeyes:

    my OAL came to 3 9/32"

    I was unable to measure the pin's protrusion.(don't have the right tool for it)



    I did find this while taking out the firing pin.

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    I'm pretty sure it was stuck here on the pin, it fell off/out as I was taking it apart and didn't quite catch where it dropped from.
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    Ok. As many times as I’ve read this thread, and my last post, it wasn’t till now that I realized I typed extractor when I meant to type ejector. I’ve had extractor problems with another gun for weeks, and just had extractor on the brain.

    It looks like you might have had a piece of a casing stuck in your bolt and up against your firing pin. Just pure speculation on my part, but could that possibly cause more of the firing pin to strike the primer, causing the pierced primers? Again, just speculation.

    I have not taken the firing pin out of my gun yet, but here is a couple of photos of my bolt to show what my firing pin looks like in the bolt. On the front of the bolt, I made sure the FP was in the firing position before I shot the photo, so it shows how far it protrudes.

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    I'm just so impressed by the level of knowledge my fellow gt members have and how much assistance they lend.