SF DA Chest Boudin declares war on cops

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  1. Bren

    Bren NRA Life Member

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    Triple felony murder during a bank robbery, plus a serious assault. And as soon as she got paroled, fellow communists gave her a job at Columbia University.

    Not one of these people should be alive, IMO. Compared to these W.U. terrorists, Charles Manson should be walking free and holding elected office.
     
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    On Facebook he still lists himself as "Attorney at Law at San Francisco Public Defender's Office."
     

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    This is the part that really bothers me.
     
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    attention to detail lacking. Or a Freudian slip.

    he seems to want to make the DA office into the public defenders office. That way, everyone wins!

    Or not.
     
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    https://www.boudinblunders.com/

    WWW page setup for reporting of his lack of prosecution, etc.

    Not mentioned: His "Adopted" parents were main suspects in the bombing of SFPD Park Police Station in the early 70's...
     
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    They probably have armed bodyguards, or at least live in gated communities or other nice areas where they are insulated from the peasants.
     
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    View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l1jYP0VEbAU&t=16s


    Full video. Flat out attacked the Officers before they got out of the car and they STILL did the “I don’t want to shoot you dance” for far too long.

    “Boudin said he’s not charging Hampton right now in part because those officers are still under investigation for opening fire.”

    Nice inflammatory line there.

    He’s hoping they find the shooting unjustified (a distinct possibility in that ****hole) and he can then prosecute the cops.
     
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    Yes they do. Pretty rare though because for the last couple of decades the attorney general has been more left wing than most of the district attorneys
     
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    Honestly, what is wrong with these people? Their thought processes are so ****ed up i can’t even begin to comprehend their line of reasoning. Don’t really think it’s reasoning at at all, just feelings.

    https://www.davisvanguard.org/2020/...of-force-and-charging-policy-aimed-at-equity/

    from the article:


    When Chesa Boudin was elected to San Francisco DA in November, one of his big promises was to hold police accountable, and for many cases that means avoiding the conflict of interest of relying on the same police officers to testify in order to prosecute someone shot by police while they themselves are under investigation.

    The first test of that principle is the case of 24-year-old Jamaica Hampton, who was shot and critically wounded by SF police in the Mission District on December 7, 2019. A formerly homeless man who worked as a waiter in Oakland, his leg has been amputated. Formerly homeless, because now he’s hospitalized!

    At the same time, he faces various charges including assault on a police officer. A video apparently shows him striking an officer with a glass vodka bottle. He was then chased and shot by police.

    Mr. Hampton was originally charged with assault with a deadly weapon, assault on a police officer, and threats to an officer by the DA’s office under interim District Attorney Suzy Loftus. But on Friday, the DA’s office announced it was withdrawing the charges due to their ongoing investigation into the two officers who shot Mr. Hampton.

    “It would be problematic to ask the officers to testify while they are under investigation,” Mr. Boudin said on Saturday. “Mr. Hampton remains in the hospital in serious condition so there is no public safety concern with allowing the investigation to proceed and for my office to obtain more information on [both] sides of the investigation.”


    New Conflict Policy

    But as Chesa Boudin explained to the Vanguard in a text on Saturday evening, the decision was “actually part of a new policy to avoid conflicts until concurrent investigations are complete.”

    In the policy he emailed the Vanguard, it notes: “It is the policy of the San Francisco District Attorney’s Office (SFDA) to investigate and prosecute potential criminality in the most complete, fulsome, and expeditious manner. However, it is acknowledged that the investigation of critical incidents, gun violence, or other complex crime scenes involving several parties, may necessitate multiple and contemporaneous investigations.”

    The policy notes that “a thorough investigation of all parties and theories of liability may conflict with such statutory timelines.

    “In recognition of such competing interests, and where appropriate, and in the interest of public safety, SFDA may elect to delay, defer, or prioritize the order in which investigations are completed and reviewed for charging or declination. This may include ‘discharging’ an arrest referral for ‘FURTHER INVESTIGATION, Code 27’ in favor of the completeness of all ongoing investigations.”

    However, “no conclusions about the prosecutorial viability of any such deferral should be drawn based upon such a discharge. Such discharges shall be deemed only as an effort to deconflict investigative time limits, statutory discovery obligations and/or to maintain the integrity of investigative leads.”

    Two Sides to Every Story

    As Mr. Hampton’s attorney, Public Defender Danielle Harris, told the Vanguard late on Saturday, Jamaica Hampton at this point is no threat to public safety.

    She told the Vanguard that seven weeks after the shooting, he remains hospitalized.

    “The bullets hit major arteries in his left leg and left arm. Jamaica is lucky to be alive and he knows it,” Ms. Harris said in an emailed statement. “Jamaica’s punishment thus far has included his being unconscious, intubated, and on a feeding tube for over three weeks.” Oh waaah! He did that to himself.

    She added, “When Jamaica regained consciousness, it soon became clear that the massive damage to his left leg was irreversible and his leg was amputated on January 9. The bullet to his left arm caused major nerve damage to his dominant arm and hand. Part of his right thumb was also amputated. He has fought off multiple infections and has endured dozens of trips to the OR.”

    Further, “Jamaica’s recovery journey has only just begun and will be years in the making. Once hospitalization is no longer needed, Jamaica will be in a rehabilitation facility for a long time as his residual leg heals and he works to regain use of his arm. The end result remains unknown. “

    In short, as DA Boudin pointed out, “there is no public safety concern with allowing the investigation to proceed and for my office to obtain more information on [both] sides of the investigation.”

    Was Lethal Force Justified?

    Immediately following the shooting in December, there was a contentious town hall meeting where supporters and advocates questioned the shooting and the need to use what could have been lethal force against him.

    Danielle Harris pointed out that Mr. Hampton was unarmed when police officers shot him in both legs and an arm. So you admit he continued the attack after he dropped his weapon? Good.

    She said, “the coup de grâce shot (was fired) when Jamaica was on his knees, critically wounded and unarmed. The bullets hit major arteries in his left leg and left arm.”

    Ms. Harris also pointed out the POA at this point “are not privy to all of the details that have emerged through the investigation so far.”

    She said, “To prove any crime, the state must prove an act and a mental state. A violent act without a criminal mental state is a tragedy, but it is not a crime.” You should be very disappointed in the quality of your law degree. Smashing a cop in the head with a glass bottle shows his criminal mental state. Duh!

    Ms. Harris also noted, “SFPD has misrepresented the events leading up to their shooting Jamaica Hampton.”

    She said that there was never any “hot prowl burglary” in this case. The police, she said, were investigating a misdemeanor trespass and vandalism by a person described to be “mentally disturbed.” And they found him! He was attacking them before they got out of the car or said a word to him. It MUST be the cops’ fault!

    She argued that the officers who responded lacked “crisis intervention training” and also “failed to request assistance from crisis trained personnel.” When should they have done that? While he was attacking them in the car, or while they were getting hit in the head with a bottle?

    She told the Vanguard, “Had there been CIT personnel involved, these events would certainly have unfolded quite differently and without endangering all in the area that nearly fatal morning.” Would they? They woulda talked that guy out of his wholly unprovoked attack?

    Thus she believes that the DA’s office made the correct decision to defer prosecution until they had completed both investigations.

    “This fundamental principle of law is what has so far been relied on to justify every single police killing in SF, no matter how apparently egregious. Here too, the law applies equally to all lives,” she added.

    Danielle Harris believes that the decision to defer a prosecution decision “pending a complete investigation is exactly the procedure police benefit from routinely, regardless of how apparent their misconduct.” You’re a liberal progressive piece of ****.

    She added, “The POA outrage reflects an institutional belief that the poor and powerless can be summarily jailed on half-information while only those in power deserve the benefit of careful, considered, full analysis. In a just world, all lives don’t just matter; they matter equally.” I bet you live in a gated community or secured building, don’t you?

    —David M. Greenwald reporting
     
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    Truly shameful.
     
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    Just a thought. Perhaps, if there is any money judgement against the dept or city regarding use of force issues, the officer assaulted could then turn around and sue the guy for the assault the officer suffered from him.

    Not sure if it would work, but worth a shot anyway.
     
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    By the time the suspect gets a settlement from the city, the statute of limitations for the officer to sue the guy will be expired. So he’d have to file early on, which means he’ll be out of pocket for attorney and court costs with no assurance of any recovery.

    The only attorneys who front the costs and work on contingency are personal injury guys. But if the officer was injured and a lawyer will take it on contingency, there still won’t be much in the end. If the officer gets an award for his injuries, worker’s comp is legally entitled to recover their costs out of that (subrogation, I think?).
     
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    And they want us to support and respect higher education?
     
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    My wife's cousin was one of the two officers kill d in nyack
     
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    The communists never went away; they became the establishment.
     
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    My apologies for linking to the Chronicle....they just went to that Pay format. Its a slanted liberal rag anyway- good riddance.

    Thx to Bren and others for the links.

    I can ell you the one comment by Chesa that they are cracking down on broken windows is a load of horse puckey- that from a buddy on the force and another neighbor working SFFD.

    Officers know- do not bring in petty theft or Homeless committing crimes.....the DA won't prosecute. Chesas argument, There are too many folks in prison already. Sheesh what chit show.

    One can only hope it gets bad enough that the citizens say, "Enough"

    But dang it, my daughter lives over there and I can't talk her into moving.

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    I don't know of any gated communities in SF. I do know they have high rise condo and apartment building where it isn't cheap to live. They do have to leave to go to work but once there they are safe in high rise buildings. I went to see my lawyer in SF once. You have to talk to the receptionist to come down and get you in due to the key card access required.
     
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    You are correct. In the 1960's we were battling the communists and too many people thought that was over when Reagan won the cold war and the USSR collapsed. Turns out the communists started the slow overthrow of the U.S. right after they took over Russia. Russian communists infiltrated the U.S. civil rights movement before America even knew it existed (1919 according to Wikipedia). The 60's was just the communists emboldened by the USSR and the cold war and starting to come above ground - they started the open infiltration of the Democratic party in the 60's. This century is the communists actually taking power - they own the Democrat party and every election from the 1990's to the foreseeable future is another battle of "Americanism vs. Communism" as they used to call that long-banned high school class.

    I'm afraid America is not equipped to defeat them. Our constitutional freedoms allow them to operate openly, until they use that freedom to get the power to take away that freedom.
     
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    if you are looking for Xavier Bacerra to step in, you are barking up the wrong tree.
     
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